The Unbearable Moral Corruptness of dAWK
Aussie Dave | Feb 17, 2005 | 17 comments
Der Angry White Kid (dAWK) is up to his old tricks again. While he would like people to think that he is a champion of the oppressed, he is nothing more than a terror apologist.
In his latest ranting, he claims that Israel violated the ceasefire by killing 6 PLO Arabs.
I’m all for ceasefires. I think the killings on both sides are sad and tragic. But the fact of the matter is that for a ceasefire to work, there actually has to be a cessation of firing. That means you can’t kill six Palestinians, at least two of them children, in less than a week and continue to call it a ceasefire. PA spokesperson Abd Allah Abd Allah points out,It is either that the Israeli government can’t rein in its terrorist army, or the government itself is instructing the army to keep up the killing order to provoke the Palestinians to retaliate.I don’t think the ceasefire should be foresaken yet, but if this past week is any hint as to what the future holds, this agreement’s carcass will be thown onto the ever-growing pile of broken deals. The past two ceasefires called by the Palestinians have gone the same way. Palestinian militants halt their attacks, Israel keeps killing Palestinians, and eventually Palestinians retaliate. Newspapers then read, “Months of relative calm shattered by terrorist attack.” “Relative calm” or “lull in violence” of course are terms that only apply to the Israelis.
Here, dAWK suggests that Israel “keeps killing Palestinians, and eventually Palestinians retaliate”. So what about last week’s unprovoked attacks on Israel, in which PLO Arab terrorists fired mortar shells and rockets into Israel? The fact that he did not speak out then, but does speak out now (when he claims Israel has killed PLO Arabs), shows he is either ignorant as to what is going on, or knows what is going on but chooses to ignore it. Either way, he supports the very people targeting innocents for death, and does not acknowledge that the innocents should be able to defend themselves.
This is also manifest in the fact that he quotes al Crapeeza as his source for proving that Israel killed ‘innocent’ PLO Arabs. Yet each of these incidents involved Israeli claims that the victims were involved in acts of terrorism. (Given past experience, in which we have seen PLO Arab children, women, and donkeys used for terror attacks, I know which account is the more credible). Despite al Crapeeza’s penchant for lying and forsaking any pretense of objectivity in its reporting, dAWK automatically takes its word as gospel. I suppose dAWK will also automatically accept Syria’s claims that Israel was behind the Hariri assassination?
Some of my readers are probably asking “why are you even bothering with this guy?” Well, I think it is important to expose people like dAWK for what they really stand for – especially since there are many more like him on campuses around the world. They claim to be champions of the underdog and victim, but they are not really. They are people who unintentionally or deliberately ignore the facts behind a conflict, and choose to support the side making the most noise – with bombs and guns. And by not speaking out about the horrific crimes perpetrated by the people they support, the dAWKs of the world cross the line from possible ignorance to definite moral corruptness.
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An Australian immigrant to Israel, Aussie Dave has been blogging since early 2003.Filed Under: General
Even I’m wondering why you’re bothering with me.
So are you saying Israel hasn’t killed 6 Palestinians in the past week? Actually, the IDF only killed 5, a settler shot a 15 year old in the back, that brave fellow.
As for al-Jazeera, again, point to something false in my posts and I’ll reconsider my use of them as a source. They provided both the claims of the Palestinians and the IDF in their articles. While written with a perspective you may not agree with, they’re not just making stuff up.
And no, I don’t think Israel killed Hariri. Do you even see my post on that?
I don’t see you speaking out on the horrific crimes perpetrated by the IDF or the settler crazies. It’s not my job to be the moral arbiter of the conflict. I’m most interested in posting information that I feel needs greater attention, mainly in the US. Suicide bombings get roundly condemned every time they occur, so while I don’t support them, I don’t feel the need to add my voice to the clamor. Dead Palestinians, the Wall, etc, get much less attention, so I’m more likely to post about those issues. That’s cute and all with the whole moral corruptness thing, but it just doesn’t fly.
Even though Al Jazeera do mention both versions, they clearly support the PLO Arab version. And how come YOU side with the PLO Arab version (i.e. that Israel just killed 6 PLO Arabs for no reason). That make you even worse than Al Jazeera.
In the isolated cases that any Jew committed a terrorist act, I have condemned such actions on this blog. it hasn’t happened too much though, because unlike the PLO Arab terrorists, Israelis tend not to do this, and when they do, they are not funded and encouraged by their government and their brethren worldwide (as well as people like you) to perpetrate such acts.
As to your contention that you focus on things that you feel “needs greater attention”, since you “don’t feel the need to add my voice to the clamor”, I had to laugh. The very fact that terrorism has brought the PLO Arabs to a stage where people openly talk about a PLO Arab state shows that their voices have been heard. Or should I say their bombs and bullets. There are people around the world who TRULY deserve statehood and self determination, and who don’t muder innocent people on an almost daily basis. Why aren’t you talking about them?
Finally, you still haven’t explained why you ignore the rocket attacks from last week and claim Israel violated the ceasefire. Are you a liar or clueless?
Hmm, let me get something straight here. The second link, the “kill” one, talks about two armed “militants” approaching an Israeli settlement (even Al-Jazeera’s Palestinian sources say there was an “exchange of fire”, meaning that the fire came from both sides). Now, could someone please be so kind and explain to me how killing these two violates the cease fire? Israel may have committed itself to halting the active hunt for the Palestinian terrorists- but I don’t recall anything about not defending settlements from infiltrations by armed members of Hamas or Al-Aksa Butchers.
Oh and speaking of the blind trust in the testimony of eyewitnesses- that, unfortunately, is not just Al-Jazeera’s illness. Virtually all humanitarian NGOs and the absolute majority of the reporters rely so heavily on eyewitnesses that, with extremely rare exceptions, they don’t bother themselves with fact checking at all. The recent killing of a 10 year old Palestinian girl, which was initially blamed by eyewitnesses AND by the UNRWA officials on Israel, makes a fine example of what problem this attitude poses. While it was later proven that the girl was [url=http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1107228084937]shot by a Palestinian[/url], only one news agency- the Reuters-actually bothered to [url=http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=564&e=1&u=/nm/20050131/ts_nm/mideast_dc_242]check the facts[/url] and saw that the Israelis could not shoot her.
But “moral corruptness” was a bit over the top. Quoting my favorite writer Stanislav Eji Letz, there is no need to see an evil intent in what can be adequately explained by stupidity.
It seems I have screwed up a little with the links, but I don’t see an “edit” button…
Well said..except I think I explained why dAWk has crossed the line from mere ignorance/stupidity.
As I’ve written before it’s obvious that angry White boy is a delusional, lazy pothead who has nothing better to do than champion a cause that is bogus.
I’m still waiting for someone to explain to me when a “Palestinian” people or country actually existed. Unfortunately this idiot just latched onto the most trendy radical left-wing cause out there. Who cares about the Tibetans ot Kurds who are really under brutal occupation, and who actually exist with their own language, culture etc.
It’s so much cooler to support a phony people who are fighting for land that is not even theirs. Of course lazy White boy gets all his information from Al-Crapzeera which has nothing to do with the truth. You have to feel sorry for the pathetic fool!
Since it’s pointless for me to even bother commenting here, I won’t waste too much of my time and address the Qassam rocket question.
I didn’t mentioned the rockets as they were fired in retaliation for the killing of two Palestinians the day before. As I mentioned after your comments on my blog, you raise a good point and I’ll keep it in mind.
Malia, I really don’t know what you’ve been reading or where you get your ideas from. Maybe it’s too much Joan Peters, I don’t know. You should try reading an actual history book, even Benny “Ben Gurion should’ve finished the job” Morris. But I guess spouting racist garbage on sites filled with racist garbage is nothing new.
In closing, the fact of the matter is that all you racist, colonial types are on the losing side of history. Get your licks in now, because in the books of the future, you will be the laughingstocks, the ones people talk about when they ask, “How could those people have supported that?” You can kick, scream, call me all the names you want, but nothing will change that fact.
Peace.
Scott, don’t confuse yourself with history. Even if, as was predicted by Orwell, history writing does degrade completely into repeating popular lies like the ones you support, it would hardly make your cause just or your claims true.
As for Malia, he/she is merely short sighted somewhat. The Palestinian people as an independent entity did not exist before the Zionist movement began settling in the Land of Israel. Argue with it all you want, but the fact remains that the Arabs of Palestine were never treated as an ethnicity of their own, nor did they strive for independence, nor did they have an identity of their own that would separate them from the rest of the Arab nation. Today, however, the Palestinian nation, shaped primarily by its relationship with Zionism, does exist, and I see no reason to deny that. Which is why I, personally, am not opposed to the creation of a Palestinian state. It is what the PLO mafia wants to do with this state that bothers me.
angry White Boy,
You keep showing your stupidity! I’m American Indian so I can hardly be labeled a “racist colonial type.” Oooh! What a trendy phrase. I bet you think your’re so cool writing that. I didn’t mention race at all in my comment so you must hallucinating. Calling me racist instead of debating the facts doesn’t surprise me since you have nothing to base your ignorant opinions on.
I actually get my ideas from the truth and facts and not from Arab/Muslim propaganda. I can send you all the information from my research and it will tear your opinions to shreds.
In the future you are the one that will look like the idiot for supporting a bogus cause.
Womble,
I’m a woman! Doesn’t my name give it away? Anyway, I don’t think that a “Palestinian” state should exist since there are nearly two dozens Arab countries out there. The Jews shouldn’t have to give away their land to a fraudulent people who want to kill them.
Ouch, Malia, sorry, I should have guessed you were a woman
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To be honest, I don’t think it is possible for a Palestinian state to NOT exist. The Israeli presence on the territories was a forced defensive measure- as long as Jordan remained an enemy of Israel, it would be foolish to give them back a perfect launching pad for attacks such as the West Bank. But the way I see it, the creation of a Palestinian state is today inevitable. There is a limit to how long one can keep a large group of people without citizenship, however good they are treated. Since the Palestinians are not interested in being loyal citizens of Israel, they have to be given self-rule- but not at all costs. Israel is interested in it too- at the moment, we are forced to supply them with electricity and water for free and even keep their sewer systems in order, and it is too much of an economic burden for a small state like ours.
So you’re a Native American? That’s awesome!
While I admire Dave for spending his time on this, I personally wouldn’t. I don’t see the point in dealing with those whose thoughts are controlled by prejudice, causing them to refuse even hearing the facts. I mean would you look at the guy’s “list of things he likes to read”. He hardly gets much sensible reading done. But what can you do when people don’t care about facts?
Womble,
You make a lot of good points but I still don’t see the need for another Arab country. The Arabs who call themselves “Palestinians” should return to Jordan and Egypt where they are from. A “Palestinian” country would only enable those Arabs who are brainwashed to think that their ancestors were indigenous to Israel and would create more of a incentive to destroy Israel.
If creating another Arab country would lead to peace then it would be a good idea but I doubt that would happen. I read the Arab media several times a week and it’s clear that creating a “Palestinian” country is seen as a steppping stone to destroying Israel. If the Arab countries really wanted peace with Israel they would have had it decades ago. I wouldn’t trust them.
Of course my opinions don’t really matter because I’m not Jewish nor do I live in Israel but it seems that Israel is helping further their own destruction.
Since I’ve been reading about Israel’s history I’m constantly amazed at how many times Israel has made concessions to the Arabs only to be burned again and again. I don’t see anything that would be different this time.
I realize I’m not among friends here, but will someone rational check that delusional Malia? I realize it serves your purposes to have these myths perpetuated, but come on, it gets to such a racist, ahistorical, reality-denying point that someone should step in.
Malia, here’s factual info on the population of Palestine:
From: McCarthy, Justin, The Population of Palestine, (New York: Columbia University Press, 1980) p.10, quoting corrected Ottoman figures; Clifford A. Wright, Facts and Fables: the Arab-Israeli Conflict (London and New York: Kegan Paul International, 1989); Rashid Khalidi, ‘xxxx’ in Edward Said and Christopher Hitchens (ed.) Blaming The Victims, (London and New York: Verso Books, 2001)
Most of the Jews that you claim are “from” Israel are immigrants from Europe. Not even Dave or Womble will deny that fact. The modern incarnation of Israel is that of a colonial-settler state. If you really are a Native American, you should understand something about colonization. But from reading your twisted thoughts, you seem about as Native American as Walid Shoebat is Palestinian.
Finally Malia, oh sage one, what concessions has Israel ever, ever made to its Arab neighbors? I’m willing to accept that there might have been a few, but I can’t recall any, unless you count war, occupation, and the stealing of territory by force as concessions. Oh yeah, and offering to create bantustan ghettoes and call it a state.
Angry White boy,
You are the one that is delusional since being unemployed and doing drugs does make people insane. The fact is that you are the racist for telling me what a real Indian should think like. What the hell do you know?! You have the gall, as a White boy, to tell me what opinions I should as an American Indian!!
It’s obvious you have never met a real American Indian since you don’t know anything about the way we think. There are many American Indians who support the Jews, who are the real indigenous people of Israel, like Professor David Yeagley, Santos Hawk Blood Saurez and the Canadian Indian group who went on a solidarity trip to Israel last year.
Unlike you we know who are the real indigenous people of a land are and the Arabs who call themselves “Palestinians” aren’t. Why doesn’t a “Palestinian” language, culture, society, or country ever existed? The word “Palestine” is of Roman orgin not Arabic. The letter P doesn’t even exist in the Arab alphabet. I should add that the “Philistines” have no connection to the Arabs who call themselves “Palestinians.”
I don’t believe the stats your provided. I have done my own research and would never believe people who write books that are funded by Saudi Arabia. Edward Said by the way claims to have been born in Jerusalem which is a complete fabrication like most of his books.
You seem to think all the Jews are “White” and Arabs are dark but why was Arafat lighter-skinned than Sharon? Many Jews are dark-skinnned because their families have always lived in the Middle East. That is why the Arabs are the ones who have occupied land and started wars with the Jews not the other way around.
The only thing that I agree with you on is that Walid Shoebat isn’t a “Palestinian,” because they don’t exist.
I have been to Oakland several times and next time I’m in the area I’ll contact you. I dare you to tell me to my face that I’m not an Indian. Then you’ll find out what happens when you make an Indian woman mad.
I just want to say one quick thing. Though I am loath to apologize to someone as rude and disrespectful as you, Malia, I am sorry about my American Indian comment. You’re right, it was wrong and inconsiderate of me to say and I apologize. I’d even grovel some more, but I know you’d just say something viciously ad hominem in response, so it’s not worth it.
I’d love to chat if you visited Oakland, but I’ve found with such backwards thinkers like yourself, it’s impossible to have a rational conversation. You can write and believe in all the lies you want, but that won’t make them true. You can not believe my statistics, but that doesn’t make them untrue. And you can cite two American Indians and one group, but that does not mean a people support Israel. Look, I can do it, too! Ward Churchill, Leonard Peltier, American Indian Movement. Ta Da!
Your faulty thinking is made evident by your statement here:
You’ve been duped into believe that supporting Jews and supporting Israel are one in the same. Israel, just like Zionism, does not represent the Jewish people, just some Jewish people. I think all peoples should support one another, and if they must, only oppose one another’s ideologies and actions.
Malia-
“You make a lot of good points but I still don’t see the need for another Arab country. The Arabs who call themselves “Palestinians” should return to Jordan and Egypt where they are from.”
Not all of them are not indigenous to this land. And even if they all were, it wouldn’t change a thing. The census Scott quotes is not entirely accurate (not surprising, seeing as his source is Edward Said), it is his conclusions that are false- but there WERE Arab people living on this land for centuries. Trying to wish them away is pointless. Seding them into exile would be unwise, unfair and just plain cruel- we all know how the Palestinians are treated in the refugee camps of Lebanon. I have a friend in Ramallah, I wouldn’t want her exiled. There is no need for “another Arab country”- but there IS a need for Palestinian self-rule as the only realistic solution for the conflict. The rest is wishful thinking.
Scott- in case you didn’t know, many Native Americans support Israel. You know why? Because they know a thing or two about nations in exile. Yes, many of the Israeli Jews are immigrants or descendants of immigrants- but the question of who is indigenous is merely a question of how big a period of time one chooses to review. Any archaeologist worth his salt will tell you that the Jewish nation is indigenous to this land. Our return to it is not “colonialism”, it is a Reconquista. We reclaimed the only piece of land that was ever rightfully ours, and this does not deprive the Palestinian Arabs of their own indigenous rights. There is more than a million of them living in Israel, and living better than their bretheren in the nearby Arab ruled states.
Angry White boy,
You should also apologise for your delusional opinions! First of all Ward Churchill is not an American Indian so I could care less what that poseur says. AIM represents a small minority of American Indians and are Communists. The only reason that this group supports the phony “Palestinians” is because they were given the phony “Palestinians” indigenous crap propaganda. I’ve heard through the grapevine that some members don’t want to be associated with the so-called “Palestinians” anymore.
I’m pretty sure I know more Indians than you and can tell you that when they know the truth they definately support the right of Jews to their homeland. I have changed many minds, not just Indians, on this issue.
In my opinion there is very little difference between being pro-Jewish and pro-Zionist. Being anti-Zionist is being anti-Jewish. If you told me that I didn’t have rights to my land in America than you would definately be anti-Indian.
I would debate you in person because I know I have truth on my side. The fact is that you haven’t answered my questions about the non-existance of a “Palestinian” language, society, culture. If this ethnic group actually existed it wouldn’t be hard to prove. When did a “Palestinian” country exist. And why were the Jews first to be called “Palestinian?”
Are you a Muslim? That would explain a lot. You really are obssessed with the Jews. Why?
Malia,
Proud to be an Ameircan Indian Zionist!