“i’ve seen it called jerusalem day, national day, and yes, independence day, by those more learned than myself.”

Surely that should have told you a thing or two about how “learned” these people were.

Oh and if you seriously believe that the 1967 war was anything but defensive for Israel, do explain why it was Egypt and not Israel that demanded the evacuation of the UN force from Sinai- the most effective buffer between the two states. And why Egypt felt such an urge to block the Eilat port with their warships.

Then again, I recall you saying that you still believe a massacre happened in Jenin, much in the spirit of your favorite Ilan “History should not be based on facts” Pappe…

well, I’d write more but I’m off to celebrate 4th of July.

I got pissed and forgot to write my name.

Anyways, the hypocracy of the Jews not being able to live in the PA areas while Israel has arabs is just the tip of the iceburg.

For example in Jpost article (that I cannot find at the moment). The columnists writes about how the JNF is now required to sell land to arabs. While this shouldn’t be a big deal, it’s complete hypocracy because of the way the arabs protested the greek orthodox selling land to Jews. Why must the JNF sell territory to arabs, which the original purpose of the JNF is help collect land for Israel. While it’s unacceptable for a patriarch to sell land that does not belong the PLO arabs to Jews.

But I’m sure you and I can find many more examples of this hypocracy.

The 1967 being a war of self defence is WELL RECOGNIZED by almost all but the anti-Israel brigade. And had it been a war of agression launched by Israel, UN resolution 242 would surely have condemned Israel and called for an unqualifed withdrawal from all the territories captured. Instead, it contains a “land for peace” formulation.

You are also spot on with the “refugee” issue. Regarding ethnic cleansing, the only type is the ethnic cleansing of Jews from the PA areas. How come Jews are not allowed to live in PLO Arab controlled territories? Israel has Israeli Arabs, yet the idea of Jewish communities in the PA areas is seen as an abomination.

Don’t expect dAWK to back up his assertions, since he has nothing but hatred to support his side.

There was also slightly less well known part. Egypt had planned for “Operation: Dawn (al-Fajr)”. The plan for this operation was to strike Eilat and take over the negev. Their was also a flyover of the Egyptian airforce over dimona. And Egypt had another plan called “operation: Leopard” where they were going to bomb the [heavily populated] Israeli coast.

Also taking the words of nasser

“We Knew that closing teh Gulf of Aqaba meant war with Israel,”…

“If war comes it will be total and the objective will be Israel’s destruction… This is Arab power.”

And this is all besides Egypts militarization of the sinai, it’s allying of Syria, and having Jordanian troops put under its command.

(source: Six days of War, by Michael B. Oren)

Now onto the ethnic cleasning stuff. I never understood how people can claim ethnic cleasning yet at the same time have a palestinian population of 3.8 (or is it 2.4 million) in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza (and still growing).

Also looking at the death atlas

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat4.htm

Israel vs. Palestinians:

* SIPRI 1997: 13,000 killed (1948-96)

* B’Tselem: The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in The Occupied Territories [http://www.btselem.org/English/Statistics/Total_Casualties.asp] 9 Dec 1987-May 2003 (cross-ethnic killings only)

o In Occupied Territories

+ Palestinians: 3544

+ Israelis: 532

o In Israel

+ Palestinians: 106

+ Israelis: 610

o TOTAL

+ Palestinians: 3650

+ Israelis: 1142

+ TOTAL: 4792

You can see that from 1948-2003 about 20,000 PLO arabs have been killed in fighting with Israel. (Most likely including the the killing of collaboraters, ‘work accidents’, and so on that are attributed to Israel).

And hey since I’m on a tirade, I might as also discuss the BS “right of return”. The fact is the 4 million PLO arabs living in those arab refugee camps are not refugees. Under the UNRWA definition the PLO arabs are the only ones who can pass their refugee status to their children, which for obvious reasons is complete garbage.

Here is the definition in full

http://www.un.org/unrwa/refugees/whois.html

To put it simply if you have step father who is “palestinian” you now are officially a refugee. (Think about that)

And as David has put it, please give some stuff to support your statements.

With regards to your hysterical calls of racism and ethnic cleansing, you are still yet to provide even a shred of evidence of either.

And one last thing..did it ever occur to you that the reason I have referred to your posts on numerous occasions is because you write such blatant nonsense? Sorry to burst your bubble, but the only infatuation going on is between you and your hatred for Israel.