Lies Saeb Told Me
Aussie Dave | Jun 06, 2005 | 5 comments
Jerusalem Post have an interesting Q&A session, with PLO Arab Minister of Propaganda Chief Negotiator Saeb “It’s a Massacre” Erekat answering readers’ questions.
See if you can go through the questions and answers, and identify all of the instances of Erekat avoiding the question or flat-out lying. Here are some examples.
B.M, Chicago, Illinois, USA:
Why should settlements be dismantled? Shouldn’t a Palestinian State demonstrate tolerance to all religions, like Israel has demonstrated already by giving all citizens equal rights before the law?Saeb Erekat:Dismantling settlements is facilitating the way for tolerance and coexistence between the State of Palestine and Israel; it’s not about Palestinians not tolerating Jews. We have never been racist. Those who introduce such arguments are only undermining the two state solution.If the reader [who asked this question] wants to consider one state between Jordan and the Mediterranean to be equal, with peace, and live in tolerance with all religions, we will think about it. However, by saying that, I’m afraid somebody will accuse me of trying to undermine the Jewish nature of Israel.I believe it is in the interest of Palestinians and Israelis to have a two state solution.
Translation: The reason we do not want Jews in our lands is not because we are racist, but to promote tolerance and coexistence (!) Suggesting it is racism is undermining the two-state solution.
The only way that we will be willing to have Jews in our areas is if there is a one-state solution (!) where all religions can live side-by-side (there is currently such an entity – it’s called Israel, you frickin’ moron – ed.)
Martin Rau, Wuppertal, Germany:
Do you call the offer of then Prime Minister Ehud Barak at the Camp David negotiations a “generous offer”? If not, please give some explanations or even point to literature. Thank You.Saeb Erekat:
Camp David was not a failure in my eyes. Camp David brought Palestinians and Israelis to where they have never been before. History will judge that at Camp David, President Clinton succeeded to get President Arafat and Prime Minister Barak to turn 80 percent of never turned stones.I don’t recall a generous offer or a rejection at Camp David. All I know today is that Camp David will constitute the foundation for future peace between Palestinians and Israelis.
Raz Telchai:
I have heard Mr. Erekat speak many times on “historic Palestine” and the Palestinian willingness to compromise by accepting 22% of “historic Palestine.” Where is this historic Palestine, and who are these historic Palestinians?Saeb Erekat:
I am not here to score points. I’m here to explain the need to reconcile and the need to abandon confrontation and violence. It is cheaper for Israelis and Palestinians to negotiate peace in pain and frustration for five years than to exchange bullets for five minutes.Denying historic Palestine does not mean that historic Palestine did not exist. Go back to history and you’ll find out about it. It is also in the Bible.
Notice how he can’t answer the question. He addresses “historic Palestine” but not the so-called “Palestinians.” And it is interesting that he mentions the Bible, without specifics (since the Bible is proof of the Jewish title deed to this land).
David Bennett, Johannesburg, South Africa:
Does Israel have a right to exist as a “Jewish State” in perpetuity (i.e. as it has since 1948 where Jews have been the majority)? And by this I do mean a state that has a vibrant Muslim / Arab Israeli minority which is not discriminated against.My question is important because as a Diaspora Jew, I want to know that if our people are ever the victims of an intended Holocaust again, we will have somewhere to turn to.I personally hope and pray for a real two state solution, living side by side in peace. But obviously if all the refugees have to come live in Israel, it won’t continue to exist as a Jewish state in the future.Saeb Erekat:The PA and PLO have recognized the state of Israel’s right to exist within secure 1967 borders and accepted to have a Palestinian state next to the state of Israel. In terms of geography, Israel is 78% of British mandated Palestine while the state of Palestine will be in the remaining 22%.Israel can call itself whatever it wants to call itself as far as Palestinians go.
The PA/PLO have still not recognized Israel’s right to exist. Also, Transjordan is at least 76% of the British mandated Palestine, not Israel as Erekat claims.
Jerusalem Post have an interesting Q&A session, with PLO Arab Minister of Propaganda Chief Negotiator Saeb “It’s a Massacre” Erekat answering readers’ questions.
See if you can go through the questions and answers, and identify all of the instances of Erekat avoiding the question or flat-out lying. Here are some examples.
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He didn’t answer my question about Hanan Ashrawi. I guess those two have kissed and made up since Arafat picked Saeb to sideline her completely and impose Tunisian-Beirut PLO supremacy over local non-PLO Arabs speaking for themselves.
David,
About the camp david deal
http://www.saudi-us-relations.org/international-relations/prince-bandar.html
This is a very revealing interview from Prince Bandar.
Here’s the excerpt that we might all enjoy (and scream “Barak you idiot!”)
Clinton, who continued to apply his considerable energy to finding a Middle East solution, came to believe, in December of 2000, that he had finally found a formula for peace; he asked once more for Bandar’s help. Bandar’s first reaction was not to get involved; the Syrian summit had failed, and talks between Barak and Arafat at Camp David, in July, had collapsed. But when Dennis Ross showed Bandar the President’s talking papers Bandar recognized that in its newest iteration the peace plan was a remarkable development. It gave Arafat almost everything he wanted, including the return of about ninety-seven per cent of the land of the occupied territories; all of Jerusalem except the Jewish and Armenian quarters, with Jews preserving the right to worship at the Temple Mount; and a thirty-billion-dollar compensation fund.
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“Congratulations,” Bandar said, loudly and sarcastically, for he knew by then that the talks had failed. On what? Berger asked. “Arafat is telling me you guys have a deal.” Not true, Berger said, adding that he and Clinton had made it clear to Arafat that this was his last chance. Please, Berger said, tell Arafat that this is it. “It’s too late,” Bandar recalls saying. “That should have happened with the White House, not with me.” (A spokesman for Clinton recalled, “At one point, Clinton said, ‘It’s five minutes to twelve, Mr. Chairman, and you are going to lose the best and maybe the only opportunity that your people will have to solve this problem on satisfactory grounds by not being able to make a decision.’ . . . The Israelis accepted. They said they had reservations and Arafat never accepted.”)
Bandar believed that the White House had hurt its cause by not pressing an ultimatum. Arafat, though, was committing a crime against the Palestinians-in fact, against the entire region. If it weren’t so serious, Bandar thought, it would be a comedy. He returned to Arafat’s room and sat down, trying to remember: “Make your words soft and sweet.” Bandar began, “Mr. President, I want to be sure now. You’re telling me you struck a deal?” When Arafat said it was so, Bandar, still hiding his fury, offered his congratulations. His wife and children were waiting for him in Aspen, he said, and he wanted to go. Bandar could see the life draining out of Arafat. He started to leave, then turned around. “I hope you remember, sir, what I told you. If we lose this opportunity, it is not going to be a tragedy. This is going to be a crime.” When Bandar looked at Arafat’s staff, their faces showed incredulity.
The next evening, a White House spokesman said that Arafat had agreed to accept Clinton’s proposals, with reservations, only as the basis for new talks. Arafat said later that he had not been offered as much as had been described. When Bandar told all this to the Crown Prince, Abdullah was surprised, particularly about the offer on Jerusalem. A few months later, Abdullah asked Clinton, who was visiting Saudi Arabia, whether Bandar’s description of the offer was correct. Clinton confirmed Bandar’s details, and said that the failure of these last negotiations had broken his heart. Later still, the Crown Prince told Bandar he was shocked that Arafat had wasted such an opportunity, and that he had lied to him about the American offer. Bandar told associates that it was an open secret within the Arab world that Arafat was not truthful. But Arafat had them trapped: they couldn’t separate the cause from the man, because if you attacked the man you attacked the cause. “Clinton, the bastard, really tried his best,” Bandar told me last week when we met at his house in McLean. “And Barak’s position was so avant-garde that it was equal to Prime Minister Rabin”-Yitzhak Rabin, who was assassinated in November, 1995. “It broke my heart that Arafat did not take that offer.”
jews are the nazis of today.
they steal land and deport an entire people.
Bet they will start to whine once again when the oppressed take their rightful revenge !
Hitler had the right idea.
Wherever the jew is/was he causes war and problems amongst other people . The world is starting to get the right idea about the jew once again.
Just a story (but a true one) . the jews have pushed for holocaust museums to the extreme. These have become very popular.
But not for the reason they think or had hoped for. Youths visit these places and get a kick out of hearing how the jew was dealt with !!! AWESOME !
A candle was burning to remember the “so called innocent jews”…Well, one child( a fine looking young blond girl) just blew the candle out…and said : old news and they weren’t innocent… Gotta love it !
and what is really funny : these feeling towards jews are growing everywhere.
antisemite isn’t even considered to be an insult anymore
people don’t care anymore how much of your jewish family was disposed of ; and sometimes it just gives them pleasure.
*Yawn*
Bla bla bla.
You forgot your meds. By the way, ur banned from this site.
Is this effluent still here??
“dump” it on dAWK’s site. He’s a swill guy.