<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Lies Saeb Told Me</title> <atom:link href="http://www.israellycool.com/2005/06/06/lies-saeb-told-me/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.israellycool.com/2005/06/06/lies-saeb-told-me/</link> <description>Down Under Punditry in the Middle East</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 14:10:25 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.israellycool.com/2005/06/06/lies-saeb-told-me/comment-page-1/#comment-3893</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:55:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.israellycool.com/2005/06/06/lies-saeb-told-me/#comment-3893</guid> <description>Is this effluent still here??&quot;dump&quot; it on dAWK&#039;s site. He&#039;s a swill guy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this effluent still here??</p><p>&#8220;dump&#8221; it on dAWK&#8217;s site. He&#8217;s a swill guy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.israellycool.com/2005/06/06/lies-saeb-told-me/comment-page-1/#comment-3892</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2005 05:10:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.israellycool.com/2005/06/06/lies-saeb-told-me/#comment-3892</guid> <description>*Yawn*Bla bla bla.You forgot your meds. By the way, ur banned from this site.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Yawn*</p><p>Bla bla bla.</p><p>You forgot your meds. By the way, ur banned from this site.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.israellycool.com/2005/06/06/lies-saeb-told-me/comment-page-1/#comment-3891</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 23:31:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.israellycool.com/2005/06/06/lies-saeb-told-me/#comment-3891</guid> <description>jews are the nazis of today.they steal land and deport an entire people.Bet they will start to whine once again when the oppressed take their rightful revenge !Hitler had the right idea.Wherever the jew is/was he causes war and problems amongst other people . The world is starting to get the right idea about the jew once again.Just a story (but a true one) . the jews have pushed for holocaust museums to the extreme. These have become very popular.But not for the reason they think or had hoped for. Youths visit these places and get a kick out of hearing how the jew was dealt with !!! AWESOME !A candle was burning to remember the &quot;so called innocent jews&quot;...Well, one child( a fine looking young blond girl) just blew the candle out...and said : old news and they weren&#039;t innocent... Gotta love it ! :)and what is really funny : these feeling towards jews are growing everywhere.antisemite isn&#039;t even considered to be an insult anymore :)people don&#039;t care anymore how much of your jewish family was disposed of ; and sometimes it just gives them pleasure.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jews are the nazis of today.</p><p>they steal land and deport an entire people.</p><p>Bet they will start to whine once again when the oppressed take their rightful revenge !</p><p>Hitler had the right idea.</p><p>Wherever the jew is/was he causes war and problems amongst other people . The world is starting to get the right idea about the jew once again.</p><p>Just a story (but a true one) . the jews have pushed for holocaust museums to the extreme. These have become very popular.</p><p>But not for the reason they think or had hoped for. Youths visit these places and get a kick out of hearing how the jew was dealt with !!! AWESOME !</p><p>A candle was burning to remember the &#8220;so called innocent jews&#8221;&#8230;Well, one child( a fine looking young blond girl) just blew the candle out&#8230;and said : old news and they weren&#8217;t innocent&#8230; Gotta love it ! <img src='http://www.israellycool.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>and what is really funny : these feeling towards jews are growing everywhere.</p><p>antisemite isn&#8217;t even considered to be an insult anymore <img src='http://www.israellycool.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>people don&#8217;t care anymore how much of your jewish family was disposed of ; and sometimes it just gives them pleasure.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.israellycool.com/2005/06/06/lies-saeb-told-me/comment-page-1/#comment-3890</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 16:45:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.israellycool.com/2005/06/06/lies-saeb-told-me/#comment-3890</guid> <description>David,About the camp david dealhttp://www.saudi-us-relations.org/international-relations/prince-bandar.htmlThis is a very revealing interview from Prince Bandar.Here&#039;s the excerpt that we might all enjoy (and scream &quot;Barak you idiot!&quot;)&lt;em&gt;Clinton, who continued to apply his considerable energy to finding a Middle East solution, came to believe, in December of 2000, that he had finally found a formula for peace; he asked once more for Bandar&#039;s help. Bandar&#039;s first reaction was not to get involved; the Syrian summit had failed, and talks between Barak and Arafat at Camp David, in July, had collapsed. But when Dennis Ross showed Bandar the President&#039;s talking papers Bandar recognized that in its newest iteration the peace plan was a remarkable development. It gave Arafat almost everything he wanted, including the return of about ninety-seven per cent of the land of the occupied territories; all of Jerusalem except the Jewish and Armenian quarters, with Jews preserving the right to worship at the Temple Mount; and a thirty-billion-dollar compensation fund....&quot;Congratulations,&quot; Bandar said, loudly and sarcastically, for he knew by then that the talks had failed. On what? Berger asked. &quot;Arafat is telling me you guys have a deal.&quot; Not true, Berger said, adding that he and Clinton had made it clear to Arafat that this was his last chance. Please, Berger said, tell Arafat that this is it. &quot;It&#039;s too late,&quot; Bandar recalls saying. &quot;That should have happened with the White House, not with me.&quot; (A spokesman for Clinton recalled, &quot;At one point, Clinton said, &#039;It&#039;s five minutes to twelve, Mr. Chairman, and you are going to lose the best and maybe the only opportunity that your people will have to solve this problem on satisfactory grounds by not being able to make a decision.&#039; . . . The Israelis accepted. They said they had reservations and Arafat never accepted.&quot;)Bandar believed that the White House had hurt its cause by not pressing an ultimatum. Arafat, though, was committing a crime against the Palestinians-in fact, against the entire region. If it weren&#039;t so serious, Bandar thought, it would be a comedy. He returned to Arafat&#039;s room and sat down, trying to remember: &quot;Make your words soft and sweet.&quot; Bandar began, &quot;Mr. President, I want to be sure now. You&#039;re telling me you struck a deal?&quot; When Arafat said it was so, Bandar, still hiding his fury, offered his congratulations. His wife and children were waiting for him in Aspen, he said, and he wanted to go. Bandar could see the life draining out of Arafat. He started to leave, then turned around. &quot;I hope you remember, sir, what I told you. If we lose this opportunity, it is not going to be a tragedy. This is going to be a crime.&quot; When Bandar looked at Arafat&#039;s staff, their faces showed incredulity.The next evening, a White House spokesman said that Arafat had agreed to accept Clinton&#039;s proposals, with reservations, only as the basis for new talks. Arafat said later that he had not been offered as much as had been described. When Bandar told all this to the Crown Prince, Abdullah was surprised, particularly about the offer on Jerusalem. A few months later, Abdullah asked Clinton, who was visiting Saudi Arabia, whether Bandar&#039;s description of the offer was correct. Clinton confirmed Bandar&#039;s details, and said that the failure of these last negotiations had broken his heart. Later still, the Crown Prince told Bandar he was shocked that Arafat had wasted such an opportunity, and that he had lied to him about the American offer. Bandar told associates that it was an open secret within the Arab world that Arafat was not truthful. But Arafat had them trapped: they couldn&#039;t separate the cause from the man, because if you attacked the man you attacked the cause. &quot;Clinton, the bastard, really tried his best,&quot; Bandar told me last week when we met at his house in McLean. &quot;And Barak&#039;s position was so avant-garde that it was equal to Prime Minister Rabin&quot;-Yitzhak Rabin, who was assassinated in November, 1995. &quot;It broke my heart that Arafat did not take that offer.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p><p>About the camp david deal</p><p><a href="http://www.saudi-us-relations.org/international-relations/prince-bandar.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.saudi-us-relations.org/international-relations/prince-bandar.html</a></p><p>This is a very revealing interview from Prince Bandar.</p><p>Here&#8217;s the excerpt that we might all enjoy (and scream &#8220;Barak you idiot!&#8221;)</p><p><em></p><p>Clinton, who continued to apply his considerable energy to finding a Middle East solution, came to believe, in December of 2000, that he had finally found a formula for peace; he asked once more for Bandar&#8217;s help. Bandar&#8217;s first reaction was not to get involved; the Syrian summit had failed, and talks between Barak and Arafat at Camp David, in July, had collapsed. But when Dennis Ross showed Bandar the President&#8217;s talking papers Bandar recognized that in its newest iteration the peace plan was a remarkable development. It gave Arafat almost everything he wanted, including the return of about ninety-seven per cent of the land of the occupied territories; all of Jerusalem except the Jewish and Armenian quarters, with Jews preserving the right to worship at the Temple Mount; and a thirty-billion-dollar compensation fund.</p><p>&#8230;</p><p>&#8220;Congratulations,&#8221; Bandar said, loudly and sarcastically, for he knew by then that the talks had failed. On what? Berger asked. &#8220;Arafat is telling me you guys have a deal.&#8221; Not true, Berger said, adding that he and Clinton had made it clear to Arafat that this was his last chance. Please, Berger said, tell Arafat that this is it. &#8220;It&#8217;s too late,&#8221; Bandar recalls saying. &#8220;That should have happened with the White House, not with me.&#8221; (A spokesman for Clinton recalled, &#8220;At one point, Clinton said, &#8216;It&#8217;s five minutes to twelve, Mr. Chairman, and you are going to lose the best and maybe the only opportunity that your people will have to solve this problem on satisfactory grounds by not being able to make a decision.&#8217; . . . The Israelis accepted. They said they had reservations and Arafat never accepted.&#8221;)</p><p>Bandar believed that the White House had hurt its cause by not pressing an ultimatum. Arafat, though, was committing a crime against the Palestinians-in fact, against the entire region. If it weren&#8217;t so serious, Bandar thought, it would be a comedy. He returned to Arafat&#8217;s room and sat down, trying to remember: &#8220;Make your words soft and sweet.&#8221; Bandar began, &#8220;Mr. President, I want to be sure now. You&#8217;re telling me you struck a deal?&#8221; When Arafat said it was so, Bandar, still hiding his fury, offered his congratulations. His wife and children were waiting for him in Aspen, he said, and he wanted to go. Bandar could see the life draining out of Arafat. He started to leave, then turned around. &#8220;I hope you remember, sir, what I told you. If we lose this opportunity, it is not going to be a tragedy. This is going to be a crime.&#8221; When Bandar looked at Arafat&#8217;s staff, their faces showed incredulity.</p><p>The next evening, a White House spokesman said that Arafat had agreed to accept Clinton&#8217;s proposals, with reservations, only as the basis for new talks. Arafat said later that he had not been offered as much as had been described. When Bandar told all this to the Crown Prince, Abdullah was surprised, particularly about the offer on Jerusalem. A few months later, Abdullah asked Clinton, who was visiting Saudi Arabia, whether Bandar&#8217;s description of the offer was correct. Clinton confirmed Bandar&#8217;s details, and said that the failure of these last negotiations had broken his heart. Later still, the Crown Prince told Bandar he was shocked that Arafat had wasted such an opportunity, and that he had lied to him about the American offer. Bandar told associates that it was an open secret within the Arab world that Arafat was not truthful. But Arafat had them trapped: they couldn&#8217;t separate the cause from the man, because if you attacked the man you attacked the cause. &#8220;Clinton, the bastard, really tried his best,&#8221; Bandar told me last week when we met at his house in McLean. &#8220;And Barak&#8217;s position was so avant-garde that it was equal to Prime Minister Rabin&#8221;-Yitzhak Rabin, who was assassinated in November, 1995. &#8220;It broke my heart that Arafat did not take that offer.&#8221;</p><p></em></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Anonymous</title><link>http://www.israellycool.com/2005/06/06/lies-saeb-told-me/comment-page-1/#comment-3889</link> <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:58:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.israellycool.com/2005/06/06/lies-saeb-told-me/#comment-3889</guid> <description>He didn&#039;t answer my question about Hanan Ashrawi. I guess those two have kissed and made up since Arafat picked Saeb to sideline her completely and impose Tunisian-Beirut PLO supremacy over local non-PLO Arabs speaking for themselves.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He didn&#8217;t answer my question about Hanan Ashrawi. I guess those two have kissed and made up since Arafat picked Saeb to sideline her completely and impose Tunisian-Beirut PLO supremacy over local non-PLO Arabs speaking for themselves.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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