Red Ken – Anti-Semite, Despicable Creature

It’s official. London Mayor Ken Livingstone is a despicable human being, of the lowest moral character. I say this after the remarks he has made to Sky News, justifying terrorism against Israel – barely weeks after London was hit by multiple terrorist attacks.

Less than two weeks since the London terror attacks, the city’s Mayor Ken Livingstone has sparked controversy by defending the use of suicide bombers in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and charging that Israel had indiscriminately slaughtered Palestinians in acts that “border on crimes against humanity.”

 

“Given that the Palestinians don’t have jet planes, don’t have tanks, they only have their bodies to use as weapons,” Livingstone told Sky News in an interview.

 

“In an unfair balance, that’s what people use,” said Livingstone, who has often been strongly critical of Israel in the past.

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Livingstone said that Israel has “done horrendous things which border on crimes against humanity the way they have indiscriminately slaughtered men, women and children in the West Bank and Gaza for decades.”

 

Livingstone also said that he does not distinguish between members of Likud and Hamas, branding them “two sides of the same coin.”

 

“I think it is the Israelis who are leading the stubborn line,” said Livingstone. “The Likud and Hamas members are two sides of the same coin. They need each other in order to attract support.”

 

“Each side emphasizes the extremism of the other in order to attract sympathy,” Livingstone said.

 

Livingstone agreed to the interview in the wake of the media frenzy surrounding the possible visit of controversial Muslim cleric Yusuf al-Qaradawi, who has voiced support for Palestinian suicide bombers and has been banned from entering the United States.

 

Livingstone denied that Qaradawi will visit London,.

 

“I believe it is forbidden to take human life,” Livingstone said. “I will welcome and meet with senior members of the Israeli government if they come here because they serve their country’s government even though I believe they have done terrible things bordering on crimes against humanity.”

Livingstone has also been running off at the mouth with the BBC:

Mr Livingstone said he did not just denounce suicide bombers.

 

He also denounced “those governments which use indiscriminate slaughter to advance their foreign policy, as we have occasionally seen with the Israeli government bombing areas from which a terrorist group will have come, irrespective of the casualties it inflicts, women, children and men”.

 

He continued: “Under foreign occupation and denied the right to vote, denied the right to run your own affairs, often denied the right to work for three generations, I suspect that if it had happened here in England, we would have produced a lot of suicide bombers ourselves.”

And here are his remarks to Channel 4:

Livingstone said a double standard has “infected” the way people view Britons who may join the IDF or embark on jihadist activities.

 

“If a young Jewish boy in this country goes and joins the Israeli army, and ends up killing many Palestinians in operations and can come back, that is wholly legitimate,” he said. “But for a young Muslim boy in this country, who might think: I want to defend my Palestinian brothers and sisters and gets involved, he is branded as a terrorist. And I think it is this that has infected the attitude about how we deal with these problems.”

The Jerusalem Post has even more on the Livingstone diatribe(s):

“I think the Israeli hardliners around Likud and Hamas [members] are two sides of the same coin; they need each other to drum up support, they point to the excesses of the other to recruit and I don’t make any distinction because I believe the taking of human life is wrong. In particular, when you think of the illegal invasion of Lebanon, the illegal invasion of Egypt and Jordan in the Six Day War, all these exercises of going into Palestinian refugee camps and indiscriminately destroying homes simply because a bomber came from that area,” Livingstone said.
“I don’t believe in an eye for an eye. I don’t believe in that punishment.”

Make no mistake about it. Ken Livingstone is an anti-Semite, and Islamic terror apologist. His statements do not really dignify a response. But for the sake of those who have found this site wanting to know more about Livingstone’s statements (I have been registering many such google hits today), I will respond – by dissecting many of Livingstone’s statements.

 

Livingstone Statement #1:

“Given that the Palestinians don’t have jet planes, don’t have tanks, they only have their bodies to use as weapons”

Besides the fact that this is palpably false – he is ignoring the heavy grade weaponry and arms that the PLO Arabs have been directing against us – Livingstone does not seem bothered by the fact that the PLO Arab terrorists are deliberately murdering and maining innocent civilians. He might be able to hide his anti-Semitism better if he justified terrorists targeting Israeli military positions, but he can’t even draw that line. To him, the PLO Arabs are justified in deliberately killing anyone, due to his perception of an inequality in weaponry between the two sides.

 

Livingstone Statement #2:

Livingstone said that Israel has “done horrendous things which border on crimes against humanity the way they have indiscriminately slaughtered men, women and children in the West Bank and Gaza for decades.”

While Israel has inadvertently killed civilians in its efforts to combat the terrorists, Livingstone’s statement ignores the facts that Israel does not deliberately target innocent civilians, Israel tries to minimize collateral damage where possible (often at great risk to her own troops), and that the terrorists deliberately operate out of civilian population areas.

 

Livingstone Statement #3:

“I think it is the Israelis who are leading the stubborn line,” said Livingstone. “The Likud and Hamas members are two sides of the same coin. They need each other in order to attract support.”

 

“Each side emphasizes the extremism of the other in order to attract sympathy,” Livingstone said.

This comparison is ridiculous. On one hand, you have a democratically elected government, whose policies have historically been dictated by Israel’s need to defend herself against existential threats (but has been willing to reach a peaceful settlement in the conflict). On the other side, you have a bona fide terrorist organization whose goal is to destroy Israel, and will settle for nothing less. If you don’t believe me, read the Hamas covenant. Now.

 

If these are two sides of the same coin, then clearly Livingstone is using a different moral currency than moral human beings.

 

Livingstone Statement #4:

“Under foreign occupation and denied the right to vote, denied the right to run your own affairs, often denied the right to work for three generations, I suspect that if it had happened here in England, we would have produced a lot of suicide bombers ourselves.”

All I have to say to this is as follows: Throughout history, Jews have been denied all kinds of rights in various countries, including the right to vote, work in certain professions, and move around freely. They have been subjected to violence and persecution, and led impoverished lives. Yet I do not recall one Jewish suicide bomber.

 

I should also add that if Livingstone truly wanted to understand the ideology behind suicide bombings and other forms of Islamic terror, he might understand that they are motivated by an ideology that seeks to make Islam supreme throughout the world, at the expense of Western ideologies.

 

Livingstone Statement #5:

In particular, when you think of the illegal invasion of Lebanon, the illegal invasion of Egypt and Jordan in the Six Day War..

Obviously, Livingstone needs to brush up on his history. Israel moved into Lebanon as a result of constant PLO attacks on Israel. The Six Day War began as the Arab armies were poised to attack Israel. In both these cases, Israel was acting in self-defence, and there is nothing illegal about that.


It’s official. London Mayor Ken Livingstone is a despicable human being, of the lowest moral character. I say this after the remarks he has made to Sky News, justifying terrorism against Israel – barely weeks after London was hit by multiple terrorist attacks.

Less than two weeks since the London terror attacks, the city’s Mayor Ken Livingstone has sparked controversy by defending the use of suicide bombers in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and charging that Israel had indiscriminately slaughtered Palestinians in acts that “border on crimes against humanity.”

 

“Given that the Palestinians don’t have jet planes, don’t have tanks, they only have their bodies to use as weapons,” Livingstone told Sky News in an interview.

 

“In an unfair balance, that’s what people use,” said Livingstone, who has often been strongly critical of Israel in the past.

—-

Livingstone said that Israel has “done horrendous things which border on crimes against humanity the way they have indiscriminately slaughtered men, women and children in the West Bank and Gaza for decades.”

 

Livingstone also said that he does not distinguish between members of Likud and Hamas, branding them “two sides of the same coin.”

 

“I think it is the Israelis who are leading the stubborn line,” said Livingstone. “The Likud and Hamas members are two sides of the same coin. They need each other in order to attract support.”

 

“Each side emphasizes the extremism of the other in order to attract sympathy,” Livingstone said.

 

Livingstone agreed to the interview in the wake of the media frenzy surrounding the possible visit of controversial Muslim cleric Yusuf al-Qaradawi, who has voiced support for Palestinian suicide bombers and has been banned from entering the United States.

 

Livingstone denied that Qaradawi will visit London,.

 

“I believe it is forbidden to take human life,” Livingstone said. “I will welcome and meet with senior members of the Israeli government if they come here because they serve their country’s government even though I believe they have done terrible things bordering on crimes against humanity.”

Livingstone has also been running off at the mouth with the BBC:

Mr Livingstone said he did not just denounce suicide bombers.

 

He also denounced “those governments which use indiscriminate slaughter to advance their foreign policy, as we have occasionally seen with the Israeli government bombing areas from which a terrorist group will have come, irrespective of the casualties it inflicts, women, children and men”.

 

He continued: “Under foreign occupation and denied the right to vote, denied the right to run your own affairs, often denied the right to work for three generations, I suspect that if it had happened here in England, we would have produced a lot of suicide bombers ourselves.”

And here are his remarks to Channel 4:

Livingstone said a double standard has “infected” the way people view Britons who may join the IDF or embark on jihadist activities.

 

“If a young Jewish boy in this country goes and joins the Israeli army, and ends up killing many Palestinians in operations and can come back, that is wholly legitimate,” he said. “But for a young Muslim boy in this country, who might think: I want to defend my Palestinian brothers and sisters and gets involved, he is branded as a terrorist. And I think it is this that has infected the attitude about how we deal with these problems.”

The Jerusalem Post has even more on the Livingstone diatribe(s):

“I think the Israeli hardliners around Likud and Hamas [members] are two sides of the same coin; they need each other to drum up support, they point to the excesses of the other to recruit and I don’t make any distinction because I believe the taking of human life is wrong. In particular, when you think of the illegal invasion of Lebanon, the illegal invasion of Egypt and Jordan in the Six Day War, all these exercises of going into Palestinian refugee camps and indiscriminately destroying homes simply because a bomber came from that area,” Livingstone said.
“I don’t believe in an eye for an eye. I don’t believe in that punishment.”

Make no mistake about it. Ken Livingstone is an anti-Semite, and Islamic terror apologist. His statements do not really dignify a response. But for the sake of those who have found this site wanting to know more about Livingstone’s statements (I have been registering many such google hits today), I will respond – by dissecting many of Livingstone’s statements.

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  • Anonymous

    I think he is playing to his audience. London has large Muslim poplulation. So, what better way to garner support than to take some verbal shots at Jews. This sort of thing has been going on for, oh, lets say about 2000 years. Nice to know that at least he is not an original thinker.

    Stan

  • Anonymous

    What makes the whole thing all the more odious is the fact that all these anti-Israel rants are nothing more than Red Ken playing cheap politics. It’s all designed to win over Muslim votes.

  • Anonymous

    The most depressing thing is that this is what it takes to win over Muslim votes? The only way to get Muslims to vote for you is to preach lies and hatred towards Jews? Could you imagine a politician in the US going into the deep south and making racist negative comments about blacks and non-Christians and then everyone just shrugging it off and saying “oh, its just to get the conservative-white christian vote”. Why do we just shrug it off when it comes to Muslims? Why don’t we hold them to the same standards?

    Yes, people pander to their constituents all the time, but this is really depressing and scary–there is a lot of Muslim hate out there against Jews.

  • Anonymous

    What Adolf EichKen doesn’t seem to understand is that the issue is the indescriminant targeting of Israeli civilians; if the Arabs want to put suicide bombers into catapults and hurl them at IDF defensive positions then bring it on!

  • Anonymous

    Shai – you’re partly wrong. While *some* of his rhetoric might be designed to appeal to the Muslim vote, I can assure you he is genuinely anti-Zionist and anti-Semitic, and has been for a long time. The British left from where Ken came has always been anti-Semitic, probably derived from a combination of good ol’ Christian anti-Semitism combined with early 1900s union-labour fears over the influx of Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe around that time. More modern socialism sees anti-Zionism as a must – http://www.captainzion.com/archives/2005/05/why_the_left_is.html

  • Anonymous

    Greg,

    Although you might be right that Livingstone is antisemetic. You are wrong about making this a left right issue. As I have said previously about 80 percent of American Jews are left leaning. We have been and continue to be strong supporters of Israel. I know of many right wing people (as well as left wing) that are anit Israel and antisemetic.

    Stan

  • Anonymous

    I would only add that there is often many,many foreign visitors either killed or injured by PLO arab terrorists. While the PLO Arabs lack jets and tanks they certainly have the ability to select their targets. They choose non-combatants. So there is no difference between the bombings in London and anywhere in Israel.

  • Anonymous

    link

    The Mayor of London claimed he had never supported any kind of violence

    ‚ÄúNow I don‚Äôt think that justifies suicide bombing…”

    the Mayor said he supports banning anyone who “is in any way equivocal” about condemning the atrocities here, adding that he believed the cleric had actually condemned the events of 7 July.

    The Mayor said he himself opposed suicide bombings

  • Anonymous

    stankan,

    in the UK the left have been traditionally anti-zionist and frequently anti-Semitic. I’m not saying there aren’t elements on the right who are also anti-Semitic (of course there are, and not just the facists) but we’re talking about Ren Ken here, and the Troskyist left wing, like the SWP (now the Respect Party) all the way to the intellectual left, like the BBC and the “Independent”.

    The socialist line which all these organisations tow is that Israel is western colonialism and as such bad. The anti-capitalism movement too is strongly anti-Zionist – not because Israel is the bastian of capitalism but because the folks involved in the anti-capitalism movement are heavily drawn from Marxist and socialist movements and have brought their anti-Zionist beliefs with them.

    Trust me, in the UK, left wing (to its shame) equals anti-Zionist (even if it doesn’t acknowledge the fact itself). And by the time you get as left as Ken or George Galloway, you’re into anti-Semitism territory. George Galloway’s win in a Bangladeshi-dominated east London district is a perfect example of how the left is uniting with a non-traditional voter base against a shared enemy. I really wish it was just opportunism by the left but check out George’s or Ken’s or half the Labour party’s back catalogue and you’ll see their true colours.

    I agree in the US it isn’t as much a left right issue though the more right wing media like Fox News are more pro-Israel and the more left wing media is less so (would the W Post be an example?).

  • Anonymous

    anti-zionism and anti-semitism are two differnt things. Anti-zionism is to be opposed to a colonialist mentality, whereas ant-semitism is a dislike of people of semitic origin-which means who descend from Peoples who spoke semitic languages. Of course it has come to mean Jews. I’m sure you all know this though. I just thought it was important to point this out, since some people seem intent on confusing these two very different ideas.

  • Anonymous

    “Given that the Palestinians don’t have jet planes, don’t have tanks, they only have their bodies to use as weapons,” Livingstone told Sky News in an interview.

    Okay, story straight: It is somehow Israel’s fault that Palestinians are too pissweak to raise an army. Funny that the Left didn’t sympathise with Israel in 1967 and 1973 when she fought Arab armies that vastly outnumbered her own.

  • Ben Chapman

    Livingstone said a double standard has “infected” the way people view Britons who may join the IDF or embark on jihadist activities.

    “If a young Jewish boy in this country goes and joins the Israeli army, and ends up killing many Palestinians in operations and can come back, that is wholly legitimate,” he said. “But for a young Muslim boy in this country, who might think: I want to defend my Palestinian brothers and sisters and gets involved, he is branded as a terrorist. And I think it is this that has infected the attitude about how we deal with these problems.”

    There is a level on which ken has a point, although he should have made his anti-suicide bombing views more clear.

    oh yes and how can you really describe Ken as a lefty? he’s part of labour

    I think all ken has been trying to say is that the illegal occupation of parts of palestine by israel and the indiscriminate slaughter and repression of palestianians by the isreali government and army has gone on too long.

    You would think he’d have enough political sense to be able to hold his tongue and define his thoughts clearly to the world.

    but apparently not.

    and by the way stop stereotyping and badmouthing the left there are far less racists on that side of the political equation than on the right.

    i am an anti racist far left winger by the way, and i hope everyone makes an effort to protest against the bnp in general, and in particular the red white and blue festival they want to hold on the 16th of august.

    i hope to see you outside.

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