The 1967 war was started when several Arbaian countries placed troops in position to assault is Israel. Israel preemptively struck. Nonetheless, they had attacked Israel before (with Israel NOT preemptively striking due to a threat), and it was evident they were planning an attack.

My point remains valid.

I am back for more! I am afraid I can’t let your ignorance continue.

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“If you do not accept this, just one question, what would be an alternative? Expelling the Palestines? Shooting them down, all of them? Maybe a full annexiation of their living areas? Or continuing for another hundred years of occupation, denying them elementar civil rights? Or maybe a system of apartheid, where you leave them some small and worthless home lands, while most of them live without any civil rights in an annexed territory? What should the solution be, in your opinion?”-Ben

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Lets rip that apart, shall we?

1)Expelling Palestinians.

Lets get something straight. I want pecae for Israel. And Israel is NOT going to expel the Palestinians. On an interesting note:

They were refugees before Israel. All of the arab countries neglected them. This was not in anyway caused by Israel. Honestly, they are doing better than when they were in Jordan.

2)Shooting them.

Ugh. This doesn’t even constitute a response, it is just rambling. Nobody is going to do that, not the Israelis, not anybody.

3)A “full annexation of their living area”

You’ll notice I bolded that to make a point. It is not annexation- Israel was unprovokedly attacked (on many occasions) and in one conflict, they claimed land from their assailant. When you attack someone and you lose… I mean… it’s war! In war, land is taken. Nobody would complain if Jordan had taken Israel. Thus, it is not annexation. They were attacked, and they won. Plain and simple. That’s how the land became Israels, and it is rightfully so. If, like the Sinai Pennisula, something can be worked out to return it to it’s rightful owner, so be it. But is Israel is in NO WAY obliged to do that.

4)A hundred years of occupation

See above (3).

5) Again with the annexed territory.

See (3).

As for denying them civil rights…

Look at the Arabs who live in Israel. They have good lives, full rights and seats in parliament! Their civil rights are not being denied- if you are referring to the Wall, that is Israel defending itself. The Palestinians (not all of course) set themselves up to fail. Remember President Clinton? Yasser Arafat got 99% of what he originally asked for and refused to sign the treaty! It’s Israel’s land- they were being very kind!

I await your comment.

Saying that “many” settlers are very dangerous because of a few, isolated (but I reiterate: NOT CONDONABLE) incidents is ridiculous and then some.

As for yelling:

I said my computer was going nuts. The CAPSLOCK was kinda bonkers.

Please consider this, Ben.

And please be so kind to stop insulting and screaming. Instead you should try to think about some fair and balanced solutions for the conflict. The good news is, that at all, the government made a first step forward to a long-term solution.

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AH! A few isolated incidents and you say this!? Words can not express my rage.

I DO NOT condone any act of violence. If a belligerent settler decides to kill an innocent person, Palestinian or IDF, it is murder. No two ways ’bout it. If the afforementioned person assaults someone , I do not condone it.

BUT!

THE ACTIONS OF A FEW DO NOT CONSTITUE SAYING THAT “MANY SETTLERS ARE VERY DANGEROUS”!

YOU DO KNOW THAT MANY SETTLERS LEFT ON THEIR OWN WHEN THEY WERE INSTRUCTED TO! OTHERS WERE LIFTED OUT OF THEIR LIFELONG HOMES BY SOBBING IDF SOLDIERS! HAVE YOU SEEN THOSE PICTURES!? HAVE SOME SYMPATHY! MOST SETTLERs, 99.99% of THESE SETTLERS WENT PEACEFULLY, THOUGH EITHER IN TEARS OR ALMOST CRYING!

AND TO SAY BECAUSE OF A FEW, ISOLATED (but certainly not condonable) INCIDENTS OF HATE CRIMEs, THAT “MOST” settlers are “Very dangerous” IS HORRIFIC AND RIDICULOUS!

THINK ABOUT THIS, FOOL!

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AH! A few isolated incidents and you say this!? Words can not express my rage.

I DO NOT condone any act of violence. If a belligerent settler decides to kill an innocent person, Palestinian or IDF, it is murder. No two ways ’bout it. If the afforementioned person assaults someone , I do not condone it.

BUT!

THE ACTIONS OF A FEW DO NOT CONSTITUE SAYING THAT “MANY SETTLERS ARE VERY DANGEROUS”!

YOU DO KNOW THAT MANY SETTLERS LEFT ON THEIR OWN WHEN THEY WERE INSTRUCTED TO! OTHERS WERE LIFTED OUT OF THEIR LIFELONG HOMES BY SOBBING IDF SOLDIERS! HAVE YOU SEEN THOSE PICTURES!? HAVE SOME SYMPATHY! MOST SETTLERs, 99.99% of THESE SETTLERS WENT PEACEFULLY, THOUGH EITHER IN TEARS OR ALMOST CRYING!

AND TO SAY BECAUSE OF A FEW, ISOLATED (but certainly not condonable) INCIDENTS OF HATE CRIMEs, THAT “MOST” settlers are “Very dangerous” IS HORRIFIC AND RIDICULOUS!

THINK ABOUT THIS, FOOL!

Do you have any fair and balanced solution both sides can live with? If not, your country will continue to live in a permanent status near to civil war for the next fifty years, regardless who is more fanatic. Or, as an alternative, your country will turn into something really bad and evil, not being “cool” at all.

I am, as I already said, willing to support a peac gladly with some of my taxes, and I know that many people think so. Since a compromise would lead to measures and losses which will hurt for both sides, many people will be willing to give your two small nations the ressources they need to prosper and stay as an example, that reconciliation, peace and democracy are possible.

Hm…

Let us get something straight. I am appalled when a truly innocent person dies.

But that this increasingly rare on the Palestinian side. Generally, these “innocent, murdered kids” are teens, who intentionally put themselves in the line of fire of Israeli soldiers, i.e. choosing to get in the car with a wanted man to act as shields.

Innocent people have died on the Palestinian side- and again, I am appalled when that occurs. But a lot more innocent Israelis are killed.

In short:

If you associate yourself and assist terrorists and other evildoers engaging in murder and wholesale murder of an innocent people, you are guilty by association, even if you don’t actually pull the proverbial trigger.

However, again, if an Israeli soldier unprovokedly harms a person, whether they are Israeli, Palestinian, Jewish, Arab, a child, an adult or elderly, I will be appalled.

You let me know when that happens.