Comments on: Ashura About This? http://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/ Down Under Punditry in the Middle East Fri, 25 May 2012 06:00:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Anonymoushttp://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/comment-page-1/#comment-5329 Anonymous Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:21:20 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/#comment-5329 It could very well be a reference to "erev Pesach" as you suggest.You can read the entire explanation <a href="http://headheeb.blogmosis.com/archives/014735.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>But here is the relevant quotation from that page:"<em>On the other hand, the fact that the Jewish celebration witnessed by Mohammed was a fast does not - as some have argued - exclude Passover. One of the "minor fasts" of the Jewish calendar, the Fast of the Firstborn, occurs the day before Passover begins. This fast, observed by firstborn males (and, according to some authorities, fathers of sons), commemorates the slaying of the firstborn Egyptians and gives thanks that the Jewish children were spared. This is a celebratory rather than a sorrowful fast, and it certainly commemorates a "victory over Moses' enemy." It may have been this that Mohammed observed among the Jews of Medina - its observance dates back at least to Talmudic times.</em> It could very well be a reference to “erev Pesach” as you suggest.

You can read the entire explanation here

But here is the relevant quotation from that page:

“On the other hand, the fact that the Jewish celebration witnessed by Mohammed was a fast does not – as some have argued – exclude Passover. One of the “minor fasts” of the Jewish calendar, the Fast of the Firstborn, occurs the day before Passover begins. This fast, observed by firstborn males (and, according to some authorities, fathers of sons), commemorates the slaying of the firstborn Egyptians and gives thanks that the Jewish children were spared. This is a celebratory rather than a sorrowful fast, and it certainly commemorates a “victory over Moses’ enemy.” It may have been this that Mohammed observed among the Jews of Medina – its observance dates back at least to Talmudic times.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/comment-page-1/#comment-5328 Anonymous Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:59:37 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/#comment-5328 Are you sure about 10 Muharram corresponding to Yom Kippur? How does anyone know?The Jews in Medina could have been fasting on 10th Nissan (which is the original date of the first Shabbat HaGadol) but I haven't heard of any such minhag - in fact fasting is generally prohibited in Nissan (apart from bride & groom and erev Pesach for firstborns). More likely it's just more crap from the wholly ridiculous Q'uran Are you sure about 10 Muharram corresponding to Yom Kippur? How does anyone know?

The Jews in Medina could have been fasting on 10th Nissan (which is the original date of the first Shabbat HaGadol) but I haven’t heard of any such minhag – in fact fasting is generally prohibited in Nissan (apart from bride & groom and erev Pesach for firstborns). More likely it’s just more crap from the wholly ridiculous Q’uran

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/comment-page-1/#comment-5321 Anonymous Sun, 12 Feb 2006 09:34:28 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/#comment-5321 This is just plain silly. Since when did Islam become sacred in our eyes? The "prophet" Muhammed was at best a paranoid schizophrenic, and at worst a lying murderer. Is that "islamophobic"? If so, too bad.The only saving grace of Islam is that they believe in the unity of G-d.I constantly have to put up with people deriding MY beliefs and challenging what I feel is true, why on Earth should I or anyone else kiss some Muslims ass?"Islamophobic" indeed!-ron This is just plain silly. Since when did Islam become sacred in our eyes? The “prophet” Muhammed was at best a paranoid schizophrenic, and at worst a lying murderer. Is that “islamophobic”? If so, too bad.

The only saving grace of Islam is that they believe in the unity of G-d.

I constantly have to put up with people deriding MY beliefs and challenging what I feel is true, why on Earth should I or anyone else kiss some Muslims ass?

“Islamophobic” indeed!

-ron

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/comment-page-1/#comment-5327 Anonymous Sun, 12 Feb 2006 06:40:37 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/#comment-5327 Will Islam ever calm down and decide to share the planet with the rest of us ... or will we just have to wipe them all out? If they keep going like they are now they will give us no choice. We take their sh*t and take it and take it and they think it's weekness. It's not weekness you barbarians. We just don't want all your deaths on our consciences. But I'm getting closer and closer to just not giving a damn. Will Islam ever calm down and decide to share the planet with the rest of us … or will we just have to wipe them all out? If they keep going like they are now they will give us no choice. We take their sh*t and take it and take it and they think it’s weekness. It’s not weekness you barbarians. We just don’t want all your deaths on our consciences. But I’m getting closer and closer to just not giving a damn.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/comment-page-1/#comment-5326 Anonymous Sun, 12 Feb 2006 01:59:49 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/#comment-5326 How does 10 Muharram correspond to Yom Kippur? It can't if you say it's in Nissan. I doubt it. Pick yes or no, and stay with it. How does 10 Muharram correspond to Yom Kippur? It can’t if you say it’s in Nissan. I doubt it. Pick yes or no, and stay with it.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/comment-page-1/#comment-5325 Anonymous Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:33:03 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/#comment-5325 As to bringing up the barbaric practices of Christianity of many hundreds of years ago: That's a Muslim trick and it is irrelevant. That many many Moslims are STILL barbaric IS the point.Islamophobia? Yes I fear Islam. Just like I fear any group or person that has sworn to murder or enslave me or indeed, the whole world. I'm much more islamonauseous though than I am islamophobic.Scott As to bringing up the barbaric practices of Christianity of many hundreds of years ago: That’s a Muslim trick and it is irrelevant. That many many Moslims are STILL barbaric IS the point.

Islamophobia? Yes I fear Islam. Just like I fear any group or person that has sworn to murder or enslave me or indeed, the whole world. I’m much more islamonauseous though than I am islamophobic.

Scott

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/comment-page-1/#comment-5324 Anonymous Fri, 10 Feb 2006 22:39:07 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/#comment-5324 If it were Islamaphobia (fear of Islam), I doubt that David would have posted something like this. He would be hiding under his bed by now with all of the other stuff he has said..I do not always like your sarcasm, but this time it kind of hit the spot.Stan If it were Islamaphobia (fear of Islam), I doubt that David would have posted something like this. He would be hiding under his bed by now with all of the other stuff he has said..

I do not always like your sarcasm, but this time it kind of hit the spot.

Stan

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/comment-page-1/#comment-5323 Anonymous Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:29:46 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/#comment-5323 Hm... very familiar. Oh that's right... the Flagellators of Medieval times were Christians who would ceremoniously flagellate themselves (they believed by doing this, they got G-d's grace and they would be spared the black death), take over other churches forcefully, and then proceed to torture and murder Jews.And in any event, Dave is not being is Islamophobic... this is a brutal practice.At any rate... this is point where the Earth officially went to hell: (see below)<a href="http://smh.com.au/news/world/hamas-is-offered-russias-friendship/2006/02/10/1139542403076.html" rel="nofollow">Hamas+Russia 4ever</a> Hm… very familiar. Oh that’s right… the Flagellators of Medieval times were Christians who would ceremoniously flagellate themselves (they believed by doing this, they got G-d’s grace and they would be spared the black death), take over other churches forcefully, and then proceed to torture and murder Jews.

And in any event, Dave is not being is Islamophobic… this is a brutal practice.

At any rate… this is point where the Earth officially went to hell: (see below)

Hamas+Russia 4ever

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/comment-page-1/#comment-5322 Anonymous Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:36:09 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/#comment-5322 "someone's been telling porky pies".But who ?I suspect Muslims will argue it was the Jews to Mohamed - by way of mocking his ignorance.But then, how can a (true) messenger of the Supreme Being be ignorant of Yom Kippur, right ? “someone’s been telling porky pies”.

But who ?

I suspect Muslims will argue it was the Jews to Mohamed – by way of mocking his ignorance.

But then, how can a (true) messenger of the Supreme Being be ignorant of Yom Kippur, right ?

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/comment-page-1/#comment-5320 Anonymous Thu, 09 Feb 2006 22:23:31 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2006/02/09/ashura-about-this/#comment-5320 You're right - you did not call me a name. I reacted to your mention of Islamophobia, which I strenuously deny. You’re right – you did not call me a name. I reacted to your mention of Islamophobia, which I strenuously deny.

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