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	<title>Comments on: Liveblogging the War: Monday July 17th</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2006/07/17/liveblogging-the-war-monday-july-17th/comment-page-1/#comment-6428</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i guess you failed to read my entire post.  i am not drawing moral equivalency.  like i said before, i do not support any attacks on innocent civilians regardless of the reason why.  i was merely trying to prove that the israeli definition of terrorist changes depending on the position the country was in.

when the early jewish settlers were a minority fighting to establish their homeland, irgun bombings of the controlling power&#039;s interests, soldiers and diplomats were considered valiant.  do you not think the British would have considered those attacks terrorism?  Because they served Israel&#039;s goals... they were thought to be a good thing.

Now when the Palestinians are trying to establish their own country, without barbed wire, checkpoints and huge concrete walls surrounding tiny pieces of land, they are launching attacks of their own.  While I do not believe that ANY Israelis deserve to die because of this, I believe the Palestinians think they are fighting for a just cause.  Just as I believe the Israelis thought they were in the right when they bombed British interests during the foundation of Israel.

Obviously the solution is to give the palestinians a contiguous country, free of israeli settlers, that they can call their own.  While this solution will not placate every last fanatic, it is clearly the best solution.  Continuing on the present course is simply angering more people and creating more children who have a desire to take innocent life.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i guess you failed to read my entire post.  i am not drawing moral equivalency.  like i said before, i do not support any attacks on innocent civilians regardless of the reason why.  i was merely trying to prove that the israeli definition of terrorist changes depending on the position the country was in.</p>
<p>when the early jewish settlers were a minority fighting to establish their homeland, irgun bombings of the controlling power&#8217;s interests, soldiers and diplomats were considered valiant.  do you not think the British would have considered those attacks terrorism?  Because they served Israel&#8217;s goals&#8230; they were thought to be a good thing.</p>
<p>Now when the Palestinians are trying to establish their own country, without barbed wire, checkpoints and huge concrete walls surrounding tiny pieces of land, they are launching attacks of their own.  While I do not believe that ANY Israelis deserve to die because of this, I believe the Palestinians think they are fighting for a just cause.  Just as I believe the Israelis thought they were in the right when they bombed British interests during the foundation of Israel.</p>
<p>Obviously the solution is to give the palestinians a contiguous country, free of israeli settlers, that they can call their own.  While this solution will not placate every last fanatic, it is clearly the best solution.  Continuing on the present course is simply angering more people and creating more children who have a desire to take innocent life.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 02:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I ran that Arabic article through 1-800-translate.com&#039;s free translation engine, and this is what it came up with. As always with online translators, well... you know what I was gonna say, so I&#039;m not gonna bother.

Here it is -

&quot;Code had begun &quot; the (kououl)  Israeli after the Israeli forces failed in 2003 in targeted one Palestinian terrorists..

But the main media dealt with the operation without a concern for a viewpoint in the world Israeli, also name these aimed terrorists &quot; gunmen..

But those means do interest an example on Israel in the missiles releasing operations also despite big  raises on the Israelis life..

Had hit in that frustration and pushed from a theory direction to writing - the code idea came hence..

Help (qra‡)  the code on seeing the picture complete through interjections and the bindings which appear on the Israeli press..

Gave three or four hours for code updating from temporary all days..

No  for a dialogue Palestinian.

The code allows on the Internet  net with Arabs codes friends and Moslems in the contact to me , and he  what  not can cause on the land..

Has  good relations with codes friends Egyptian and Bahraini  of whom  conduct on participations in the comment, and that one the code interests..

Despite do not agree on numerous things, except keep in a big area from the respect and understanding exchanged in dialogue..

But am not have which  the (ba)  contact.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I ran that Arabic article through 1-800-translate.com&#8217;s free translation engine, and this is what it came up with. As always with online translators, well&#8230; you know what I was gonna say, so I&#8217;m not gonna bother.</p>
<p>Here it is -</p>
<p>&#8220;Code had begun &#8221; the (kououl)  Israeli after the Israeli forces failed in 2003 in targeted one Palestinian terrorists..</p>
<p>But the main media dealt with the operation without a concern for a viewpoint in the world Israeli, also name these aimed terrorists &#8221; gunmen..</p>
<p>But those means do interest an example on Israel in the missiles releasing operations also despite big  raises on the Israelis life..</p>
<p>Had hit in that frustration and pushed from a theory direction to writing &#8211; the code idea came hence..</p>
<p>Help (qra‡)  the code on seeing the picture complete through interjections and the bindings which appear on the Israeli press..</p>
<p>Gave three or four hours for code updating from temporary all days..</p>
<p>No  for a dialogue Palestinian.</p>
<p>The code allows on the Internet  net with Arabs codes friends and Moslems in the contact to me , and he  what  not can cause on the land..</p>
<p>Has  good relations with codes friends Egyptian and Bahraini  of whom  conduct on participations in the comment, and that one the code interests..</p>
<p>Despite do not agree on numerous things, except keep in a big area from the respect and understanding exchanged in dialogue..</p>
<p>But am not have which  the (ba)  contact.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2006/07/17/liveblogging-the-war-monday-july-17th/comment-page-1/#comment-6435</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 23:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, just trying to give Aussie Dave a smile.

We just got stuffed -- so maybe I&#039;m being a tad over-optimistic there re thr a-kicking.  And Oz will be out for a bout of pom bashing!.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, just trying to give Aussie Dave a smile.</p>
<p>We just got stuffed &#8212; so maybe I&#8217;m being a tad over-optimistic there re thr a-kicking.  And Oz will be out for a bout of pom bashing!.</p>
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		<title>By: In Training</title>
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		<dc:creator>In Training</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 21:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Dude, they gotta stop that sh*t&lt;/strong&gt;

Dude. President Bush is the man. It&#039;s like he read my mind. From an Israeli Southerner - Israellycool&#039;s post today: Liveblogging the War: Monday July

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dude, they gotta stop that sh*t</strong></p>
<p>Dude. President Bush is the man. It&#8217;s like he read my mind. From an Israeli Southerner &#8211; Israellycool&#8217;s post today: Liveblogging the War: Monday July</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings,

Send in &quot;Peace Keepers&quot;? What peace do they ever keep? What violence do they ever stop or prevent? They are a waste of time, effort, and money.

Even the UN itself is a shadow of what it once was. I would like to see it removed from my countries soil, the buildings torn down, and the property placed on the open realestate market!

Rick

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings,</p>
<p>Send in &#8220;Peace Keepers&#8221;? What peace do they ever keep? What violence do they ever stop or prevent? They are a waste of time, effort, and money.</p>
<p>Even the UN itself is a shadow of what it once was. I would like to see it removed from my countries soil, the buildings torn down, and the property placed on the open realestate market!</p>
<p>Rick</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 18:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were no &#039;palestinians&#039; living there.  The people living there that would be classified as &#039;arabs&#039; were mainly immigrants via the ottoman empire (turks, greeks, russians etc), the only group that could be consider longer term were the bedouins.  Anyway 80% of them at least were part of the original two state solution - Transjordan, ie Jordan.  The rest should have been moved into Transjordan as part of the Balfour Declaration.

Funny how it&#039;s never mentioned that Jordan included as part of it&#039;s constitution that jews could NOT immigrate into Jordan.

These people rejected the word &#039;palestinian&#039;, it also referred to the jewish people living there.

The jews also had many immigrants within them, but there has also been a jewish presence uninterrupted for thousands of years - not even the Romans could clear the area of the jews.

I repeat there is a two state solution in place that should be enforced - Israel and Jordan.  (Pity the non-Palestinian Jordanians can&#039;t stand the pali&#039;s, but then again, does any arab nation like them or care about them?)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were no &#8216;palestinians&#8217; living there.  The people living there that would be classified as &#8216;arabs&#8217; were mainly immigrants via the ottoman empire (turks, greeks, russians etc), the only group that could be consider longer term were the bedouins.  Anyway 80% of them at least were part of the original two state solution &#8211; Transjordan, ie Jordan.  The rest should have been moved into Transjordan as part of the Balfour Declaration.</p>
<p>Funny how it&#8217;s never mentioned that Jordan included as part of it&#8217;s constitution that jews could NOT immigrate into Jordan.</p>
<p>These people rejected the word &#8216;palestinian&#8217;, it also referred to the jewish people living there.</p>
<p>The jews also had many immigrants within them, but there has also been a jewish presence uninterrupted for thousands of years &#8211; not even the Romans could clear the area of the jews.</p>
<p>I repeat there is a two state solution in place that should be enforced &#8211; Israel and Jordan.  (Pity the non-Palestinian Jordanians can&#8217;t stand the pali&#8217;s, but then again, does any arab nation like them or care about them?)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 18:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go do some updates on your reading of history you moron.  Israel has accepted every UN resolution/pact for peace since the 1920&#039;s- it was the other parties were rejected them, and usually started aggressions against Israel.

So now the widdle muslims want to go back to the old resolutions/pacts that they rejected cos they kept losing and are now in a worse position.

Two state solution : Israel and Jordan

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go do some updates on your reading of history you moron.  Israel has accepted every UN resolution/pact for peace since the 1920&#8217;s- it was the other parties were rejected them, and usually started aggressions against Israel.</p>
<p>So now the widdle muslims want to go back to the old resolutions/pacts that they rejected cos they kept losing and are now in a worse position.</p>
<p>Two state solution : Israel and Jordan</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 18:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dem&#039;s fighting words Jack :)

Chrisse,

Melbourne,

Australia

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dem&#8217;s fighting words Jack <img src='http://www.israellycool.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Chrisse,</p>
<p>Melbourne,</p>
<p>Australia</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the UFO shot down over Beirut today, maybe &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.inn.co.il/News/Flash.aspx/155519&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;this&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (sorry, in Hebrew) explains it.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the UFO shot down over Beirut today, maybe <a href="http://www.inn.co.il/News/Flash.aspx/155519" rel="nofollow"><u>this</u></a> (sorry, in Hebrew) explains it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cameron ... it&#039;s not bigotry ... continual terrorist assaults emanating from a particular group of people will result in countervailing force being used.

The Palatinians have brought this on themselves. All they ad to do to end it was to stop launching ordnance at Israel.

Your moral equivalence argument is just plain silly ... it looks just as silly here as it does when some leftard like Prof. Churchil tries to use it to excuse the 9-11 attack.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cameron &#8230; it&#8217;s not bigotry &#8230; continual terrorist assaults emanating from a particular group of people will result in countervailing force being used.</p>
<p>The Palatinians have brought this on themselves. All they ad to do to end it was to stop launching ordnance at Israel.</p>
<p>Your moral equivalence argument is just plain silly &#8230; it looks just as silly here as it does when some leftard like Prof. Churchil tries to use it to excuse the 9-11 attack.</p>
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