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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2007/06/26/not-so-fair-weathered-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-9422</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I didn&#039;t mean to pop up as &quot;Anonymous&quot; in my reply to Stan above.

Also shouldn&#039;t have signed off without thanking Dave for the mind-blowing CNN story. Keep up the good work.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I didn&#8217;t mean to pop up as &#8220;Anonymous&#8221; in my reply to Stan above.</p>
<p>Also shouldn&#8217;t have signed off without thanking Dave for the mind-blowing CNN story. Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2007/06/26/not-so-fair-weathered-friends/comment-page-1/#comment-9421</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stan errs when he writes that &quot;the Democratic party strongly supports Israel, as do most of the &#039;liberal&#039; Jews like myself.&quot;

If liberals - especially liberal Jews - would step out of their hermetically sealed ideological box once in a while and actually take in some new information, they would know that the world has changed since they formed their political opinions in adolescence. I say this as someone who was a liberal Democrat all my life - until the 2004 election.

An &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rjchq.org/media/pdf/poll-ad-fullsize.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NBC/WSJ poll in July 2006&lt;/a&gt; found that 84% of Republicans support Israel vs 43% of Democrats.  An LA/Bloomberg poll at the same time showed that 69% of Republicans support strong U.S. ties with Israel. Democrats? Only 39%.

Read Richard Baehr at the American Thinker: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/06/the_democrats_sign_up_with_the.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Democrats sign up with the anti-Semites&lt;/a&gt;. Or better yet, Omri at Mere Rhetoric, who has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11273199.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;question for you&lt;/a&gt;.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stan errs when he writes that &#8220;the Democratic party strongly supports Israel, as do most of the &#8216;liberal&#8217; Jews like myself.&#8221;</p>
<p>If liberals &#8211; especially liberal Jews &#8211; would step out of their hermetically sealed ideological box once in a while and actually take in some new information, they would know that the world has changed since they formed their political opinions in adolescence. I say this as someone who was a liberal Democrat all my life &#8211; until the 2004 election.</p>
<p>An <a href="http://www.rjchq.org/media/pdf/poll-ad-fullsize.pdf" rel="nofollow">NBC/WSJ poll in July 2006</a> found that 84% of Republicans support Israel vs 43% of Democrats.  An LA/Bloomberg poll at the same time showed that 69% of Republicans support strong U.S. ties with Israel. Democrats? Only 39%.</p>
<p>Read Richard Baehr at the American Thinker: <a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/06/the_democrats_sign_up_with_the.html" rel="nofollow">The Democrats sign up with the anti-Semites</a>. Or better yet, Omri at Mere Rhetoric, who has a <a href="http://www.mererhetoric.com/archives/11273199.html" rel="nofollow">question for you</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Liberal Jew.  80 percent of the Jewish population voted for Kerry.  I proudly did.

What people here don&#039;t seem to understand is that the Democratic party strongly supports Israel, as do most of the &quot;liberal &quot; Jews like myself.

There was a vote in the senate a few years ago, in support of Israel.  Only 2 senators voted against it.  Israel enjoys wide support from both parties.

The present administration is both corrupt, and outright stupid.  I am proud of the fact that for the most part Jews in America do not support it.  As far as some of the fringe  Jewish Leftists, there is no greater anti-semite than a self loathing Jew.

But, overall, Jews in America lean to the left, and Jews in America have been solid supporters of Israel from its birth through present.

I find it insulting sometimes when people in blogs act like support for Israel is a left right issue.  It is an issue of common sense and love of freedom.

Stan



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Liberal Jew.  80 percent of the Jewish population voted for Kerry.  I proudly did.</p>
<p>What people here don&#8217;t seem to understand is that the Democratic party strongly supports Israel, as do most of the &#8220;liberal &#8221; Jews like myself.</p>
<p>There was a vote in the senate a few years ago, in support of Israel.  Only 2 senators voted against it.  Israel enjoys wide support from both parties.</p>
<p>The present administration is both corrupt, and outright stupid.  I am proud of the fact that for the most part Jews in America do not support it.  As far as some of the fringe  Jewish Leftists, there is no greater anti-semite than a self loathing Jew.</p>
<p>But, overall, Jews in America lean to the left, and Jews in America have been solid supporters of Israel from its birth through present.</p>
<p>I find it insulting sometimes when people in blogs act like support for Israel is a left right issue.  It is an issue of common sense and love of freedom.</p>
<p>Stan</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outrageout. email has been sent to CNN. Just report the facts - keep personal bias out of the news, ESPECIALLY the weather....

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outrageout. email has been sent to CNN. Just report the facts &#8211; keep personal bias out of the news, ESPECIALLY the weather&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nonsense; immigration reform, no child left behind, school vouchers... there are abundant social policy reasons why the Republican Party could attract at least a goodly proportion of socially liberal Jews -- unless that electorate was a prisoner of the bigoted conviction that &#039;those sort of people&#039; were always &#039;up to no good&#039;.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nonsense; immigration reform, no child left behind, school vouchers&#8230; there are abundant social policy reasons why the Republican Party could attract at least a goodly proportion of socially liberal Jews &#8212; unless that electorate was a prisoner of the bigoted conviction that &#8216;those sort of people&#8217; were always &#8216;up to no good&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or it&#039;s simply that for some of us, democrats support more of the issues that we believe in - social programs, education, health care, etc. and republicans don&#039;t. Republicans also tend to be very bigoted.  If we were to choose only on &quot;who is best for Israel&quot; lines we might vote differently, but if we put everything together, many will vote for a party that supports the majority of their positions.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or it&#8217;s simply that for some of us, democrats support more of the issues that we believe in &#8211; social programs, education, health care, etc. and republicans don&#8217;t. Republicans also tend to be very bigoted.  If we were to choose only on &#8220;who is best for Israel&#8221; lines we might vote differently, but if we put everything together, many will vote for a party that supports the majority of their positions.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, that CNN stuff is obnoxious and dangerous. The good people of Israel (whom I support 200% in their long battle with terrorism and military aggression) deserve better.

But on the _really_ interesting question of why Jewish people overwhelmingly vote for Left Wing parties, the uncomfortable truth is that most Jews of the West are extremely bigoted, and Conservative parties -- that are generally patriotic and support traditional values -- are rejected by Jewish voters for their association with Christianity and (in the USA and Australia at least) Anglo-Saxons.

Policy has nothing to do with it, the average Jewish voter would rather hurt Israel than vote for &#039;one of them&#039;.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, that CNN stuff is obnoxious and dangerous. The good people of Israel (whom I support 200% in their long battle with terrorism and military aggression) deserve better.</p>
<p>But on the _really_ interesting question of why Jewish people overwhelmingly vote for Left Wing parties, the uncomfortable truth is that most Jews of the West are extremely bigoted, and Conservative parties &#8212; that are generally patriotic and support traditional values &#8212; are rejected by Jewish voters for their association with Christianity and (in the USA and Australia at least) Anglo-Saxons.</p>
<p>Policy has nothing to do with it, the average Jewish voter would rather hurt Israel than vote for &#8216;one of them&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just as suspicious and annoyed by leftist bias as the next guy -- but, speaking as a database programmer, this has the marks of an innocent database error.

I run a large web site myself that caters to an international audience.  If there&#039;s a keystroke error in updating the information for a city, it&#039;s quite easy for BOTH things you observed to happen: for Jerusalem to be missing its country designation, and for Jerusalem not to get filed properly when you browse for information by country.

In fact, you couldn&#039;t much have one without the other occurring at the same time; it&#039;s just how databases work.

So I&#039;d cut &#039;em some slack on this one, assuming they fix the problem early.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just as suspicious and annoyed by leftist bias as the next guy &#8212; but, speaking as a database programmer, this has the marks of an innocent database error.</p>
<p>I run a large web site myself that caters to an international audience.  If there&#8217;s a keystroke error in updating the information for a city, it&#8217;s quite easy for BOTH things you observed to happen: for Jerusalem to be missing its country designation, and for Jerusalem not to get filed properly when you browse for information by country.</p>
<p>In fact, you couldn&#8217;t much have one without the other occurring at the same time; it&#8217;s just how databases work.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;d cut &#8216;em some slack on this one, assuming they fix the problem early.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 16:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weather in Tel-Aviv- Yafo, Israel is listed. So i am not sure about what is going on here.

I do suspect CNN to be left-leaning at times

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weather in Tel-Aviv- Yafo, Israel is listed. So i am not sure about what is going on here.</p>
<p>I do suspect CNN to be left-leaning at times</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 16:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Akbara, an Arab village near Safed that has not existed since 1948&quot;
It actually still exists. Just for the record.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Akbara, an Arab village near Safed that has not existed since 1948&#8243;<br />
It actually still exists. Just for the record.</p>
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