<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Museum for Palestinian Arab suffering</title> <atom:link href="http://www.israellycool.com/2007/11/13/museum-for-palestinian-arab-suffering/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.israellycool.com/2007/11/13/museum-for-palestinian-arab-suffering/</link> <description>Down Under Punditry in the Middle East</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 04:56:10 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: Elder of Ziyon</title><link>http://www.israellycool.com/2007/11/13/museum-for-palestinian-arab-suffering/comment-page-1/#comment-12061</link> <dc:creator>Elder of Ziyon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:43:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.israellycool.com/2007/11/13/museum-for-palestinian-arab-suffering/#comment-12061</guid> <description>I blogged about Zionism and colonialism at &lt;a href=&quot;http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2007/11/is-zionism-colonialism.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my blog.&lt;/a&gt;The same arguments would apply to imperialism; if you are referring to cultural imperialism then the analogy is even further off-base.If you can give me your definition of fascism perhaps I can start working on that one. From any definition I can find it sounds like it applies to a far greater extent to the Arab world than to Israel. In fact, it is very difficult to find a criticism of Israel that is not tenfold worse in the Arab world.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blogged about Zionism and colonialism at <a href="http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2007/11/is-zionism-colonialism.html" rel="nofollow">my blog.</a></p><p>The same arguments would apply to imperialism; if you are referring to cultural imperialism then the analogy is even further off-base.</p><p>If you can give me your definition of fascism perhaps I can start working on that one. From any definition I can find it sounds like it applies to a far greater extent to the Arab world than to Israel. In fact, it is very difficult to find a criticism of Israel that is not tenfold worse in the Arab world.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Elder of Ziyon</title><link>http://www.israellycool.com/2007/11/13/museum-for-palestinian-arab-suffering/comment-page-1/#comment-12055</link> <dc:creator>Elder of Ziyon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:46:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.israellycool.com/2007/11/13/museum-for-palestinian-arab-suffering/#comment-12055</guid> <description>Oh, and while I will address your points, I will ask that you do me the courtesy of addressing mine on a separate track (a dialogue where one party is on the defensive is hardly dialogue.) A good first part would be answering my thesis that Palestinian Arabs have been treated far, far worse by their leaders and by Arab nations than by Israel, which I outlined in this post.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and while I will address your points, I will ask that you do me the courtesy of addressing mine on a separate track (a dialogue where one party is on the defensive is hardly dialogue.) A good first part would be answering my thesis that Palestinian Arabs have been treated far, far worse by their leaders and by Arab nations than by Israel, which I outlined in this post.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Elder of Ziyon</title><link>http://www.israellycool.com/2007/11/13/museum-for-palestinian-arab-suffering/comment-page-1/#comment-12054</link> <dc:creator>Elder of Ziyon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:41:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.israellycool.com/2007/11/13/museum-for-palestinian-arab-suffering/#comment-12054</guid> <description>Hi RP.I&#039;ll be happy to address these issues. I&#039;ll do it on my blog (http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com); if Aussie Dave wants I can crosslink my postings here as well.I&#039;ll start writing my first reply now, addressing specifically colonialism.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi RP.</p><p>I&#8217;ll be happy to address these issues. I&#8217;ll do it on my blog (<a href="http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com</a>); if Aussie Dave wants I can crosslink my postings here as well.</p><p>I&#8217;ll start writing my first reply now, addressing specifically colonialism.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Random Palestinian</title><link>http://www.israellycool.com/2007/11/13/museum-for-palestinian-arab-suffering/comment-page-1/#comment-12045</link> <dc:creator>Random Palestinian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:42:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.israellycool.com/2007/11/13/museum-for-palestinian-arab-suffering/#comment-12045</guid> <description>hi EOZ,Thanks for the email. Ok, understandable, as I am a very busy individual too. Regarding the talk, would you rather it take place on your blog VS here on one-to-one? If that is the case, we can do that instead.Regarding the post, well I commented on that post just to get your attention, because I couldnt find your email, but I was not commenting about that particular post. Anyway, I was hoping to garner/ask some information about your views etc on the conflict in general. Of course, I would expect that we go on tangentials every so often, such is discourse. Of course you may do the same of me.I also gather that you are a Zionist Jew.Like yourself, I am also very busy most of the time - I think an average of one-reply/day would probably suffice on each side, maybe more.My motivation for this is because I think, well, how to put it in a nice way.. Ok. Of course we all have our positions on many issues. I find that most of the time, those positions are taken emotionally. It is my goal that we agree on a position, based on reason, and logic.In other words, I am coming from the angle that Zionism is a colonial, imperial, and facist ideology. (And I do not mean to insult you personally). This does not mean that I am calling you a pro-colonialist/imperialist/fascist - afterall, there may be other sub-facets of Zionist that you like, perhaps like community, sense of purpose, or what not. But at its core, I believe that this is what it is, but at the same time, this is why I wanted to discuss this matter with another Zionist. To be blunt, I want to sell you on my logic, as I am sure you want to sell me on yours. I think this needs to happen somewhat.At the end of the day, I believe that we are all subject to logic, and reason. I cant argue against it. You cant argue against it. This is our common denominator so to speak. And this is also the only way forward, if for no other reason, than to better understand each other, and pursue actions accordingly.Well, I hope you accept this, and like I said, I am quite busy myself as you are, but I hope you will be willing to devote perhaps 20mins/day towards this.Regards, RP</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi EOZ,</p><p>Thanks for the email. Ok, understandable, as I am a very busy individual too. Regarding the talk, would you rather it take place on your blog VS here on one-to-one? If that is the case, we can do that instead.</p><p>Regarding the post, well I commented on that post just to get your attention, because I couldnt find your email, but I was not commenting about that particular post. Anyway, I was hoping to garner/ask some information about your views etc on the conflict in general. Of course, I would expect that we go on tangentials every so often, such is discourse. Of course you may do the same of me.</p><p>I also gather that you are a Zionist Jew.</p><p>Like yourself, I am also very busy most of the time &#8211; I think an average of one-reply/day would probably suffice on each side, maybe more.</p><p>My motivation for this is because I think, well, how to put it in a nice way.. Ok. Of course we all have our positions on many issues. I find that most of the time, those positions are taken emotionally. It is my goal that we agree on a position, based on reason, and logic.</p><p>In other words, I am coming from the angle that Zionism is a colonial, imperial, and facist ideology. (And I do not mean to insult you personally). This does not mean that I am calling you a pro-colonialist/imperialist/fascist &#8211; afterall, there may be other sub-facets of Zionist that you like, perhaps like community, sense of purpose, or what not. But at its core, I believe that this is what it is, but at the same time, this is why I wanted to discuss this matter with another Zionist. To be blunt, I want to sell you on my logic, as I am sure you want to sell me on yours. I think this needs to happen somewhat.</p><p>At the end of the day, I believe that we are all subject to logic, and reason. I cant argue against it. You cant argue against it. This is our common denominator so to speak. And this is also the only way forward, if for no other reason, than to better understand each other, and pursue actions accordingly.</p><p>Well, I hope you accept this, and like I said, I am quite busy myself as you are, but I hope you will be willing to devote perhaps 20mins/day towards this.</p><p>Regards,<br /> RP</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Elder of Ziyon</title><link>http://www.israellycool.com/2007/11/13/museum-for-palestinian-arab-suffering/comment-page-1/#comment-12044</link> <dc:creator>Elder of Ziyon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:58:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.israellycool.com/2007/11/13/museum-for-palestinian-arab-suffering/#comment-12044</guid> <description>I already wrote back to RP. Feel free to ask him whether I subjected him to &quot;ridicule and contempt.&quot;Your assumption that I would do so says much more about you than about me. Consequently, my respect for Random Palestinian far exceeds my respect for people like you.Cheers!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already wrote back to RP. Feel free to ask him whether I subjected him to &#8220;ridicule and contempt.&#8221;</p><p>Your assumption that I would do so says much more about you than about me. Consequently, my respect for Random Palestinian far exceeds my respect for people like you.</p><p>Cheers!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David</title><link>http://www.israellycool.com/2007/11/13/museum-for-palestinian-arab-suffering/comment-page-1/#comment-12043</link> <dc:creator>David</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:40:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.israellycool.com/2007/11/13/museum-for-palestinian-arab-suffering/#comment-12043</guid> <description>Random Palestinian:I wish you good luck.  The extremist views held by these bloggers will not be easily shaken.  Calm yourself to endure much ridicule and contempt.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random Palestinian:</p><p>I wish you good luck.  The extremist views held by these bloggers will not be easily shaken.  Calm yourself to endure much ridicule and contempt.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Random Palestinian</title><link>http://www.israellycool.com/2007/11/13/museum-for-palestinian-arab-suffering/comment-page-1/#comment-12036</link> <dc:creator>Random Palestinian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:25:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.israellycool.com/2007/11/13/museum-for-palestinian-arab-suffering/#comment-12036</guid> <description>Hello Mr Elder of Ziyon,I have come across your blog recently, and I was wondering if I might interest you in a one-on-one discussion between you and me over email, regarding the Israeli-Arab conflict.I put my email in the email box of this comment.I think the best way for convergence, (if possible) of the minds is done one on one. I have talked/argued with a couple Israelis/Zionists before, but hey were always in rushed scenarios.Anyway, look forward to hearing from you!-RP</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Mr Elder of Ziyon,</p><p>I have come across your blog recently, and I was wondering if I might interest you in a one-on-one discussion between you and me over email, regarding the Israeli-Arab conflict.</p><p>I put my email in the email box of this comment.</p><p>I think the best way for convergence, (if possible) of the minds is done one on one. I have talked/argued with a couple Israelis/Zionists before, but hey were always in rushed scenarios.</p><p>Anyway, look forward to hearing from you!</p><p>-RP</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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