Comments on: The Gandhi Art of Non-Apology http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/ Down Under Punditry in the Middle East Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:53:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Kevin Young http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/comment-page-1/#comment-13725 Kevin Young Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:38:14 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/#comment-13725 "Mahatma"? You're questioning the sanctity of Gandhi? If you want to go after politicians, fine. But leave the Saints alone. It is only my love for Bapu that kept me from saying some bad things, and I'm a Catholic. “Mahatma”? You’re questioning the sanctity of Gandhi? If you want to go after politicians, fine. But leave the Saints alone. It is only my love for Bapu that kept me from saying some bad things, and I’m a Catholic.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/comment-page-1/#comment-13684 Jeff Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:31:36 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/#comment-13684 Posted by someone else, not by him. Don't want any misunderstandings. Posted by someone else, not by him. Don’t want any misunderstandings.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/comment-page-1/#comment-13683 Jeff Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:30:25 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/#comment-13683 The problem with sarcasm when talking about Israel or jews. The things that neo-nazi's and anti-semites say are so completely over the top and out there, and they come in such great numbers, that when someone makes fun of them, or parodies them, it's almost impossible to tell the two apart.(which shows how absurd neo-nazi views are if you can't tell them from sarcastic jokes). I have had this problem on a newspaper forum I used to read. In the Israel section there were more "canadians", Lebanese and Arabians than anyone else. Only way to tell sarcasm was by looking at their listed IP location! It's amazing their views are taken seriously by anyone. Absurd. FWIW, I saw exactly what Erik said before, posted seriously on said forum I don't goto. I still get a laugh out of it. The problem with sarcasm when talking about Israel or jews. The things that neo-nazi’s and anti-semites say are so completely over the top and out there, and they come in such great numbers, that when someone makes fun of them, or parodies them, it’s almost impossible to tell the two apart.(which shows how absurd neo-nazi views are if you can’t tell them from sarcastic jokes).
I have had this problem on a newspaper forum I used to read. In the Israel section there were more “canadians”, Lebanese and Arabians than anyone else. Only way to tell sarcasm was by looking at their listed IP location!
It’s amazing their views are taken seriously by anyone. Absurd.
FWIW, I saw exactly what Erik said before, posted seriously on said forum I don’t goto. I still get a laugh out of it.

]]> By: Aussie Dave http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/comment-page-1/#comment-13678 Aussie Dave Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:51:33 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/#comment-13678 Erik, It was not obvious to me at all, perhaps because I get real numbskulls posting similar things in all seriousness. But I accept your explanation and have taken down your email address. Erik,

It was not obvious to me at all, perhaps because I get real numbskulls posting similar things in all seriousness. But I accept your explanation and have taken down your email address.

]]> By: Erik W http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/comment-page-1/#comment-13676 Erik W Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:15:30 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/#comment-13676 Wow man, I'm not sure you even read my whole post. I thought it was plainly obvious that I was being sarcastic and completely over-the-top but I guess not. At least Jeff got it, and Wry Mouth echoed my sentiments in a different manner. The point was that ANOTHER group of people exists with a so called "historic grievance" that not only in some abstract way causes people to shy away from friendship as Ghandi Jr Jr was suggesting about Israel, but that THIS OTHER group's "grievance" is a direct roadblock to peace and and therefore responsible for the continuing loss of Israeli lives and THIS GROUP's own bad fortune. This OTHER group of people is, of course, the Palestinian Arabs and their "grievance" is their so called right of return. I mean, would an anti-Semite really believe that the Jews/Israel aren't able to create their own wealth? I thought the exact opposite was an age-old anti-Semitic criticism. If you still think my post is anti-semetic, keep me blocked, but at least take down my email address. Do you think if I was really a troll I'd have given you my real address? Give me a break here. I get enough spam as it is. If you want me to prove my bona fides look no further than my comments at Snapped Shot (which has very similar themes compared to this blog) in particular: http://www.snappedshot.com/archives/1452-Its-All-About-the-Context.html And also, my submissions to IMAO.us under the "lolterist" category (note the SARCASM): http://www.imao.us/archives/cat_lolterizt.html Though I'm sure you get more than your fair share of Jew haters here, I'm still disappointed you jumped to such extreme measures so quickly, directly violating your policy of not publishing email addresses. If this doesn't go through I'll try emailing you, though I can't seem to find your address. Wow man, I’m not sure you even read my whole post. I thought it was plainly obvious that I was being sarcastic and completely over-the-top but I guess not. At least Jeff got it, and Wry Mouth echoed my sentiments in a different manner.

The point was that ANOTHER group of people exists with a so called “historic grievance” that not only in some abstract way causes people to shy away from friendship as Ghandi Jr Jr was suggesting about Israel, but that THIS OTHER group’s “grievance” is a direct roadblock to peace and and therefore responsible for the continuing loss of Israeli lives and THIS GROUP’s own bad fortune.

This OTHER group of people is, of course, the Palestinian Arabs and their “grievance” is their so called right of return.

I mean, would an anti-Semite really believe that the Jews/Israel aren’t able to create their own wealth? I thought the exact opposite was an age-old anti-Semitic criticism.

If you still think my post is anti-semetic, keep me blocked, but at least take down my email address. Do you think if I was really a troll I’d have given you my real address? Give me a break here. I get enough spam as it is.

If you want me to prove my bona fides look no further than my comments at Snapped Shot (which has very similar themes compared to this blog) in particular:

http://www.snappedshot.com/archives/1452-Its-All-About-the-Context.html

And also, my submissions to IMAO.us under the “lolterist” category (note the SARCASM):

http://www.imao.us/archives/cat_lolterizt.html

Though I’m sure you get more than your fair share of Jew haters here, I’m still disappointed you jumped to such extreme measures so quickly, directly violating your policy of not publishing email addresses.

If this doesn’t go through I’ll try emailing you, though I can’t seem to find your address.

]]> By: bubbe http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/comment-page-1/#comment-13642 bubbe Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:48:12 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/#comment-13642 What a yoksh, a momser, a nebach even. What a yoksh, a momser, a nebach even.

]]> By: Wry Mouth http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/comment-page-1/#comment-13632 Wry Mouth Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:30:16 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/#comment-13632 Did he really headline, "My Apology for My Poorly Worded Post?" Wowzers. That sort of opener aways makes my missus nervous, as when I say, "well, I'm sorry that YOU heard it that way." It's a way for me to dodge responsibility for hurt feelings, et cetera. Wish he'd a just said something like, "boy; THAT was idiotic!" No such luck? Did he take back the part about the Jooos being the chief vendors of "victim" card(s)? No? Will he be telling the Rwandans to "get over it" in a few years? No? How about the Sudanese -- oh! wait! How about -- he tell the Muslim/Arabs who have allowed the Palestinian people to fester in poverty lo these many years to "get over it" and move on? Any one want to take a bet that he'll ever get around to that? (for the record, I'm about as "goy" as they come) Did he really headline, “My Apology for My Poorly Worded Post?” Wowzers.

That sort of opener aways makes my missus nervous, as when I say, “well, I’m sorry that YOU heard it that way.” It’s a way for me to dodge responsibility for hurt feelings, et cetera.

Wish he’d a just said something like, “boy; THAT was idiotic!” No such luck?

Did he take back the part about the Jooos being the chief vendors of “victim” card(s)? No? Will he be telling the Rwandans to “get over it” in a few years? No? How about the Sudanese — oh! wait!

How about — he tell the Muslim/Arabs who have allowed the Palestinian people to fester in poverty lo these many years to “get over it” and move on? Any one want to take a bet that he’ll ever get around to that?

(for the record, I’m about as “goy” as they come)

]]> By: Jeff http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/comment-page-1/#comment-13629 Jeff Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:19:12 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/#comment-13629 I thought Erik was being sarcastic. Like my mad libs post, substitute jews for another word/group. The opt-ed wasn't poorly worded, it proves string theory. The existence of parallel universes. I thought Erik was being sarcastic. Like my mad libs post, substitute jews for another word/group.
The opt-ed wasn’t poorly worded, it proves string theory. The existence of parallel universes.

]]> By: Benji http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/comment-page-1/#comment-13627 Benji Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:22:00 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/#comment-13627 Um, Erik, how many Jews do you know? Not worth the time to argue with this garbage. Nice trick there writing "everyone knows" in front of your opinion. By the way, everyone knows that the Cowboys are going to win the Super Bowl this year! Everyone knows it! It must be true! Um, Erik, how many Jews do you know? Not worth the time to argue with this garbage. Nice trick there writing “everyone knows” in front of your opinion.

By the way, everyone knows that the Cowboys are going to win the Super Bowl this year! Everyone knows it! It must be true!

]]> By: psychotoddler http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/comment-page-1/#comment-13625 psychotoddler Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:42:58 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2008/01/11/the-gandhi-art-of-non-apology/#comment-13625 That's a great reply from the ADL. Succinct, and hits all the right points. That’s a great reply from the ADL. Succinct, and hits all the right points.

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