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	<title>Comments on: Liveblogging the Conflict: Monday, March 3rd</title>
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	<description>Down Under Punditry in the Middle East</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Israellycool &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Today&#8217;s Must-Read Article</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/03/liveblogging-the-conflict-monday-march-3rd/#comment-15332</link>
		<dc:creator>Israellycool &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Today&#8217;s Must-Read Article</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] just have to read this Spiegel Online report about the palestinian woman who gave birth to twins in Ashkelon&#8217;s Barzilai hospital, and experienced firsthand what it is [...]</description>
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		<title>By: More Reuters lies from Nidal al-Mughrabi as he says Hamas won the war &#171; The Avid Editor&#8217;s Insights</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/03/liveblogging-the-conflict-monday-march-3rd/#comment-15297</link>
		<dc:creator>More Reuters lies from Nidal al-Mughrabi as he says Hamas won the war &#171; The Avid Editor&#8217;s Insights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the Jihadi propaganda and http://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/03/liveblogging-the-conflict-monday-march-3rd/ for the great live [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the Jihadi propaganda and <a href="http://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/03/liveblogging-the-conflict-monday-march-3rd/" rel="nofollow">http://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/03/liveblogging-the-conflict-monday-march-3rd/</a> for the great live [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Israellycool &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Liveblogging the Conflict: Tuesday, March 4th</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/03/liveblogging-the-conflict-monday-march-3rd/#comment-15064</link>
		<dc:creator>Israellycool &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Liveblogging the Conflict: Tuesday, March 4th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 04:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here is proof of what I blogged yesterday regarding the IDF finding weapons in a mosque and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] here is proof of what I blogged yesterday regarding the IDF finding weapons in a mosque and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PrimerX</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/03/liveblogging-the-conflict-monday-march-3rd/#comment-15062</link>
		<dc:creator>PrimerX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'Obama insists that, at this summit, the U.S. “must also listen to the concerns” of these Muslim heads of states.'

So a dozen plus despots around a table with nasty human rights records telling the new President (hope not) how the West must appease them so we don't suffer terrorism.  Sounds like a recipe for success indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Obama insists that, at this summit, the U.S. “must also listen to the concerns” of these Muslim heads of states.&#8217;</p>
<p>So a dozen plus despots around a table with nasty human rights records telling the new President (hope not) how the West must appease them so we don&#8217;t suffer terrorism.  Sounds like a recipe for success indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Banner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge Banner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, are you on something? The IDF "completed" nothing. Your pussyfied leadership soiled themselves, again, and pull them off. You have to destroy gazans and throw them our of Israel and take the opportunity to throw ALL arabs out of Israel. Otherwise we'll soon be talking about the "late, failed, State of Israel". The arabs and the rest of the world are loughing at Israel. Do you think that's  wise? I think you lost it, already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, are you on something? The IDF &#8220;completed&#8221; nothing. Your pussyfied leadership soiled themselves, again, and pull them off. You have to destroy gazans and throw them our of Israel and take the opportunity to throw ALL arabs out of Israel. Otherwise we&#8217;ll soon be talking about the &#8220;late, failed, State of Israel&#8221;. The arabs and the rest of the world are loughing at Israel. Do you think that&#8217;s  wise? I think you lost it, already.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Nihart</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/03/liveblogging-the-conflict-monday-march-3rd/#comment-15054</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Nihart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some earlier had asked about Obama.
Let me share:

Barack Obama has made it clear that if elected president he will promptly attempt to “organize a summit in the Muslim world, with all the heads of state, to have an honest discussion about ways to bridge the gap that grows every day between Muslims and the West.” Obama insists that, at this summit, the U.S. “must also listen to the concerns” of these Muslim heads of states. 

Naturally, the concerns expressed will vary. As Abe Greenwald observes, the Iraqi head of state will be concerned that Obama is in the process of withdrawing the troops needed to protect his country from chaos and destruction. But Obama has left little doubt that he has no sympathy for that concern.

The more common concern will be the one Middle Eastern Arab leaders have been expressing for decades – the State of Israel. Here, they are likely to find a more sympathetic ear inasmuch as Obama’s advisers, especially key adviser Samatha Power, also have a history of unhappiness with Israel. 

There are two possibilities here. First, Obama might turn a deaf ear to key Arab leaders when they urge him to undercut Israeli interests. In that event, the summit almost certainly will be a failure, perhaps a spectacular one. Obama will come away with nothing. Our nation's standing (as Obama sees it) as an arrogant power unwilling to listen to others will be reinforced. The great agent of change will have changed nothing, except that, by enhancing the status of the dictators of Syria and Iran, he will have undermined the standing of the domestic opponents of those dictators.

The second possibility is that Obama’s interest in avoiding the above consequences, coupled with his inclination and that of his main advisers, will cause him to appease Israel’s opponents by tilting significantly away from Israel. 

I won’t speculate as to which of these two possibilities is more likely. Those who care about Israel’s security, and ours, should be loath to support a candidate who would put himself in that box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some earlier had asked about Obama.<br />
Let me share:</p>
<p>Barack Obama has made it clear that if elected president he will promptly attempt to “organize a summit in the Muslim world, with all the heads of state, to have an honest discussion about ways to bridge the gap that grows every day between Muslims and the West.” Obama insists that, at this summit, the U.S. “must also listen to the concerns” of these Muslim heads of states. </p>
<p>Naturally, the concerns expressed will vary. As Abe Greenwald observes, the Iraqi head of state will be concerned that Obama is in the process of withdrawing the troops needed to protect his country from chaos and destruction. But Obama has left little doubt that he has no sympathy for that concern.</p>
<p>The more common concern will be the one Middle Eastern Arab leaders have been expressing for decades – the State of Israel. Here, they are likely to find a more sympathetic ear inasmuch as Obama’s advisers, especially key adviser Samatha Power, also have a history of unhappiness with Israel. </p>
<p>There are two possibilities here. First, Obama might turn a deaf ear to key Arab leaders when they urge him to undercut Israeli interests. In that event, the summit almost certainly will be a failure, perhaps a spectacular one. Obama will come away with nothing. Our nation&#8217;s standing (as Obama sees it) as an arrogant power unwilling to listen to others will be reinforced. The great agent of change will have changed nothing, except that, by enhancing the status of the dictators of Syria and Iran, he will have undermined the standing of the domestic opponents of those dictators.</p>
<p>The second possibility is that Obama’s interest in avoiding the above consequences, coupled with his inclination and that of his main advisers, will cause him to appease Israel’s opponents by tilting significantly away from Israel. </p>
<p>I won’t speculate as to which of these two possibilities is more likely. Those who care about Israel’s security, and ours, should be loath to support a candidate who would put himself in that box.</p>
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		<title>By: The Gaza War Monday, March 3rd &#171; The Avid Editor&#8217;s Insights</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Gaza War Monday, March 3rd &#171; The Avid Editor&#8217;s Insights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Liveblogging the Conflict: Monday, March 3rd: &#8221; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy, I'm in trouble now. Not only am I a whimpy liberal, I'm an Ashenazi snob pacifist.

Stan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, I&#8217;m in trouble now. Not only am I a whimpy liberal, I&#8217;m an Ashenazi snob pacifist.</p>
<p>Stan</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to quote Einstein (1951):

"My share in the production of the atom bomb consisted in a single act. I signed a letter to President Roosevelt in which I stressed the necessity of making experiments on a large scale to check the possibility of making an atom bomb. I was fully aware of the dreadful risk which the success of these undertakings implied for humanity. But the likelihood that the Germans might be working on the same problem with a prospect of success compelled me to this step. There was no other way for me, although I have always been a convinced pacifist."

In other words:
sometimes its unfortunatelly necessary to use the fist instead of the mouth if you know the other part who is out there for destroying you use the fist first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to quote Einstein (1951):</p>
<p>&#8220;My share in the production of the atom bomb consisted in a single act. I signed a letter to President Roosevelt in which I stressed the necessity of making experiments on a large scale to check the possibility of making an atom bomb. I was fully aware of the dreadful risk which the success of these undertakings implied for humanity. But the likelihood that the Germans might be working on the same problem with a prospect of success compelled me to this step. There was no other way for me, although I have always been a convinced pacifist.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words:<br />
sometimes its unfortunatelly necessary to use the fist instead of the mouth if you know the other part who is out there for destroying you use the fist first.</p>
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		<title>By: Aussie Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aussie Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shaun.spain,

I suggest you remove that ashkenazi chip from your shoulder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shaun.spain,</p>
<p>I suggest you remove that ashkenazi chip from your shoulder.</p>
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