Comments on: Quote of the Day http://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/24/quote-of-the-day-217/ Down Under Punditry in the Middle East Sat, 26 May 2012 07:58:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Tomhttp://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/24/quote-of-the-day-217/comment-page-1/#comment-15867 Tom Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:31:56 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/24/quote-of-the-day-217/#comment-15867 Aussie Dave, I didn't call you any names, and apologize if you took it that way. I was making a play on the title of your blog to show my distaste for a particular post. And if you read my post you'll note I was not commenting at all on De Burgh (whom I must admit, I've never heard of). I was simply commenting on your posting of Phil Collins comments, which (and I apologize again if I was unclear here) should be unnecessary, and only exist because people (perhaps not you, and I apologize if I made it seem that way)are sending him emails telling him they heard somewhere that he might support the PLO and that because of that they were not listening to his music (suggesting they otherwise might, which is equally baffling to me). That is the very definition of a witch hunt. Maybe a cyber-witch hunt, but the point is the guy has never shown anything to suggest he's an antisemite, and we shouldn't be bothering him for declarations about Israel before listening to his music anymore than we should the man behind the counter at the deli, or the guy who comes and takes garbage off our curb. My point was simply that we (as Jews, not you specifically Dave) should leave Phil Collins alone unless we have something to suggest he actively hates Jews (like, say, Cat Stevens) and also please don't rustle his slumber, lest he record a new album, causing pain and consternation to the ears of Collins (music) haters the world over. And on behalf of them, I'd like to thank you. Aussie Dave, I didn’t call you any names, and apologize if you took it that way. I was making a play on the title of your blog to show my distaste for a particular post. And if you read my post you’ll note I was not commenting at all on De Burgh (whom I must admit, I’ve never heard of). I was simply commenting on your posting of Phil Collins comments, which (and I apologize again if I was unclear here) should be unnecessary, and only exist because people (perhaps not you, and I apologize if I made it seem that way)are sending him emails telling him they heard somewhere that he might support the PLO and that because of that they were not listening to his music (suggesting they otherwise might, which is equally baffling to me). That is the very definition of a witch hunt. Maybe a cyber-witch hunt, but the point is the guy has never shown anything to suggest he’s an antisemite, and we shouldn’t be bothering him for declarations about Israel before listening to his music anymore than we should the man behind the counter at the deli, or the guy who comes and takes garbage off our curb. My point was simply that we (as Jews, not you specifically Dave) should leave Phil Collins alone unless we have something to suggest he actively hates Jews (like, say, Cat Stevens) and also please don’t rustle his slumber, lest he record a new album, causing pain and consternation to the ears of Collins (music) haters the world over. And on behalf of them, I’d like to thank you.

]]> By: RRhttp://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/24/quote-of-the-day-217/comment-page-1/#comment-15854 RR Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:46:59 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/24/quote-of-the-day-217/#comment-15854 Interesting. I think I can safely speak for most Israelis when I say that we certainly don't hate the Lebanese- unless they belong to Hezbullah.And I was under the impression for many years that Phil Collins was a Jew-hating, PLO-loving schmuck. Glad to see that's not the case and I can listen to his music without feeling guilty :-) Interesting. I think I can safely speak for most Israelis when I say that we certainly don’t hate the Lebanese- unless they belong to Hezbullah.

And I was under the impression for many years that Phil Collins was a Jew-hating, PLO-loving schmuck. Glad to see that’s not the case and I can listen to his music without feeling guilty :-)

]]> By: Aussie Davehttp://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/24/quote-of-the-day-217/comment-page-1/#comment-15839 Aussie Dave Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:45:22 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/24/quote-of-the-day-217/#comment-15839 Tom,Firstly, calling me names is not a good approach if you expect your comments to be welcome here.Secondly, the rest of your comment did not really address my post now did it? I did not call de Burgh an anti-Semite, and I merely posted Phil Collin's response to the allegations directed against him.P.S Showing support for the Palestinian people and no understanding for the Israeli position usually does constitute something resembling antisemitism. Tom,

Firstly, calling me names is not a good approach if you expect your comments to be welcome here.

Secondly, the rest of your comment did not really address my post now did it? I did not call de Burgh an anti-Semite, and I merely posted Phil Collin’s response to the allegations directed against him.

P.S Showing support for the Palestinian people and no understanding for the Israeli position usually does constitute something resembling antisemitism.

]]> By: Tomhttp://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/24/quote-of-the-day-217/comment-page-1/#comment-15837 Tom Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:51:05 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/24/quote-of-the-day-217/#comment-15837 Israelly uncool, my friend. Nobody annoys me more than brain-dead ultra rich liberals who hate Israel and love the genocidal tyrants of the PA. That said, showing support for the Palestinian people does not constitute anything resembling antisemitism nor does being a genuine critic of both sides, or Israeli policy inasmuch as it resembles the policies of any free democratic republic (which means despite its good parts, it also has some dark sides). In fact, any true conservative (someone who resists BIG government) should have some serious misgivings about Israel's socialist system, despite showing full support for its inherent right to existence and self defense. So in short, knock it off with damn witch hunts for Jew haters. There are plenty of open, and unabashed, ignocelebrities who will feign real intelligence on the issues and spout stomach turning anti-Israel rhetoric at the drop of a hat. Sending emails to musicians informing them that Jews won't listen to them unless they come out strong on Israel's behalf is both insulting to me (as a Jew and a musician) and counterproductive on an absurd level. Not to mention it forces them to defend themselves with whatever they can grab, such as Phil Collins weak,"but my father in law was a Jew..." defense, which means nothing. In fact taking that as proof he doesn't hate Jews is in itself a cop out of Second Temple proportions. Bobby Fischer's mother was Jewish. Stalin had a Jewish wife. But it's our own fault for putting him in a position where he felt he had to prove his Jewfilliation in order to keep fans. Shameful. Jews don't actually RUN Hollywood, but with stupid letters like these, it's no wonder the average Joe really believes that. Also, Phil Collins has sucked for YEARS. Unless we're still banking on another Genesis revival, we shouldn't even be concerned with his political or religious views. I'm more interested in where Peter Gabriel stands (I'll give you 12-1 he's a pro-Pali delusional). Israelly uncool, my friend. Nobody annoys me more than brain-dead ultra rich liberals who hate Israel and love the genocidal tyrants of the PA. That said, showing support for the Palestinian people does not constitute anything resembling antisemitism nor does being a genuine critic of both sides, or Israeli policy inasmuch as it resembles the policies of any free democratic republic (which means despite its good parts, it also has some dark sides). In fact, any true conservative (someone who resists BIG government) should have some serious misgivings about Israel’s socialist system, despite showing full support for its inherent right to existence and self defense. So in short, knock it off with damn witch hunts for Jew haters. There are plenty of open, and unabashed, ignocelebrities who will feign real intelligence on the issues and spout stomach turning anti-Israel rhetoric at the drop of a hat. Sending emails to musicians informing them that Jews won’t listen to them unless they come out strong on Israel’s behalf is both insulting to me (as a Jew and a musician) and counterproductive on an absurd level. Not to mention it forces them to defend themselves with whatever they can grab, such as Phil Collins weak,”but my father in law was a Jew…” defense, which means nothing. In fact taking that as proof he doesn’t hate Jews is in itself a cop out of Second Temple proportions. Bobby Fischer’s mother was Jewish. Stalin had a Jewish wife. But it’s our own fault for putting him in a position where he felt he had to prove his Jewfilliation in order to keep fans. Shameful. Jews don’t actually RUN Hollywood, but with stupid letters like these, it’s no wonder the average Joe really believes that.
Also, Phil Collins has sucked for YEARS. Unless we’re still banking on another Genesis revival, we shouldn’t even be concerned with his political or religious views. I’m more interested in where Peter Gabriel stands (I’ll give you 12-1 he’s a pro-Pali delusional).

]]> By: Louhttp://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/24/quote-of-the-day-217/comment-page-1/#comment-15836 Lou Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:17:12 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/2008/03/24/quote-of-the-day-217/#comment-15836 How can anyone who has lived in Great Britain for the last 20 years not be anti Israel considering the British media anti Semitic reporting on the middle east? How can anyone who has lived in Great Britain for the last 20 years not be anti Israel considering the British media anti Semitic reporting on the middle east?

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