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		<title>By: Carol Herman</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/05/15/ashkelon-struck/#comment-17618</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol Herman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not "new."  And, also not acceptable.

However, you also have to know that besides the diplomatic pants dancing, both the Shin Bet and the Mossad are active.  And, when they do what they have to do, there's no news, either.

And, I really do believe that the ways things were fought in the past?  Will be no more.  No more heavy concentrations of foot soldiers.  No more "taking ground" and then hopibg the natives "like ya."

Sometimes, if you just stand back, you'll see it.  For Americans, Vietnam's loss was generally thought to be "journalism's last stand."  While today?  Believe it or not, but in Vietnam CHINA is the enemy!  And, the Chinese are feared.  While any connection to America is being sought out.  I kid you not.

From Lebanon, however?  No such luck.  The Lebanese circle the drain, and they still hate Israel.  

So, I'll guess that the future of wars has changed.  And, those with the best technologies have an advantage.  Until we "run out of oil."  And, then?  Back to the pitch forks.

It's also entirely possible that  Bush is in trouble at home, with the lowest poll numbers EVER!  And, a GOP that's suffering legislative losses ... And, all because he's been seen as embracing Jews?  

I think his speech to the Knesset was on target.  Drudge has it up "above the fold" and in the center of his page.

What is it about numbers?  Because just having a lot of crazy people who wave their banners around, isn't what makes environments threatening.  For hitler?  It wasn't the speech.  It was the fact that he was able to build ovens, and then he got away with it.

Where did germany lose?  Try this.  They once held a position of being the "center" of the philosophical universe.  But it's been a downhill trip.  One where for the 20th Century, Einstein rules.

And, Israel survives.

If I had to guess?  France disappears first.

While the arabs will never change.  As to the persians?  Well, the ancient greeks had no respect for them.  And, right now?  After iran deposed it's shah, things went from bad to worse.

Maybe, not only have the way wars will be done undergone change.  So have paper-signing ceremonies?

Of course, it's the oil that keeps Riyadh afloat.  Still, considering the amounts they took in, what do they really have to show for it?  In other words, when you mis-spend your "yarisha" ... you end up with bupkis.  Like the Romans.  And, other viscious entities.  Time's not kind to dictatorships.  And, we're only privy to a small portion in terms of time.

For some reason, I think Ehud Barak knows what he's doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not &#8220;new.&#8221;  And, also not acceptable.</p>
<p>However, you also have to know that besides the diplomatic pants dancing, both the Shin Bet and the Mossad are active.  And, when they do what they have to do, there&#8217;s no news, either.</p>
<p>And, I really do believe that the ways things were fought in the past?  Will be no more.  No more heavy concentrations of foot soldiers.  No more &#8220;taking ground&#8221; and then hopibg the natives &#8220;like ya.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sometimes, if you just stand back, you&#8217;ll see it.  For Americans, Vietnam&#8217;s loss was generally thought to be &#8220;journalism&#8217;s last stand.&#8221;  While today?  Believe it or not, but in Vietnam CHINA is the enemy!  And, the Chinese are feared.  While any connection to America is being sought out.  I kid you not.</p>
<p>From Lebanon, however?  No such luck.  The Lebanese circle the drain, and they still hate Israel.  </p>
<p>So, I&#8217;ll guess that the future of wars has changed.  And, those with the best technologies have an advantage.  Until we &#8220;run out of oil.&#8221;  And, then?  Back to the pitch forks.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also entirely possible that  Bush is in trouble at home, with the lowest poll numbers EVER!  And, a GOP that&#8217;s suffering legislative losses &#8230; And, all because he&#8217;s been seen as embracing Jews?  </p>
<p>I think his speech to the Knesset was on target.  Drudge has it up &#8220;above the fold&#8221; and in the center of his page.</p>
<p>What is it about numbers?  Because just having a lot of crazy people who wave their banners around, isn&#8217;t what makes environments threatening.  For hitler?  It wasn&#8217;t the speech.  It was the fact that he was able to build ovens, and then he got away with it.</p>
<p>Where did germany lose?  Try this.  They once held a position of being the &#8220;center&#8221; of the philosophical universe.  But it&#8217;s been a downhill trip.  One where for the 20th Century, Einstein rules.</p>
<p>And, Israel survives.</p>
<p>If I had to guess?  France disappears first.</p>
<p>While the arabs will never change.  As to the persians?  Well, the ancient greeks had no respect for them.  And, right now?  After iran deposed it&#8217;s shah, things went from bad to worse.</p>
<p>Maybe, not only have the way wars will be done undergone change.  So have paper-signing ceremonies?</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s the oil that keeps Riyadh afloat.  Still, considering the amounts they took in, what do they really have to show for it?  In other words, when you mis-spend your &#8220;yarisha&#8221; &#8230; you end up with bupkis.  Like the Romans.  And, other viscious entities.  Time&#8217;s not kind to dictatorships.  And, we&#8217;re only privy to a small portion in terms of time.</p>
<p>For some reason, I think Ehud Barak knows what he&#8217;s doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 11:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rockets landing in Israel is not news.  It is a completely acceptable situation.  I cannot fault the press on this.  If it is an acceptable situation to the Olmert government, why should the press consider it any differently?

Stan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rockets landing in Israel is not news.  It is a completely acceptable situation.  I cannot fault the press on this.  If it is an acceptable situation to the Olmert government, why should the press consider it any differently?</p>
<p>Stan</p>
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		<title>By: dumbledoresarmy</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/05/15/ashkelon-struck/#comment-17595</link>
		<dc:creator>dumbledoresarmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 10:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is dreadful - I will pray for the swift recovery of the wounded, especially the mother and her little girl. 

 It drives me C.R.A.Z.Y to see this happen to Israel right after the jihadis bombed a crowded market in India, while NO-ONE in the mainstream media seems to realize that 1. a jihadi Grad rocket from jihad Fortress Gaza hitting Israeli shopping centre and hurting lots of innocent Jewish civilians and 2. jihadi bombs set off by Bangladeshi or Pakistani-sponsored Muslim assassins and killing 80+ innocent HIndu and Sikh civilians [including one beautiful young bride in her sari] are both driven by the *same* ideology, to wit, Quran-Sira-Hadith, and are part of precisely the same campaign, that is, the Third Great Jihad against all non-Muslims everywhere, its final mad goal being Islam, Islam uber alles.

Both India and Israel are right at the top of the To-Do list for disgruntled jihadis who simply will not accept that sometimes stolen goods (Indian land; Jewish land) get taken right back from the thieves (Muslim imperialists) by the rightful owners (Hindu &#38; Sikh Indians in the case of India; Jews, in the case of Eretz Israel).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is dreadful - I will pray for the swift recovery of the wounded, especially the mother and her little girl. </p>
<p> It drives me C.R.A.Z.Y to see this happen to Israel right after the jihadis bombed a crowded market in India, while NO-ONE in the mainstream media seems to realize that 1. a jihadi Grad rocket from jihad Fortress Gaza hitting Israeli shopping centre and hurting lots of innocent Jewish civilians and 2. jihadi bombs set off by Bangladeshi or Pakistani-sponsored Muslim assassins and killing 80+ innocent HIndu and Sikh civilians [including one beautiful young bride in her sari] are both driven by the *same* ideology, to wit, Quran-Sira-Hadith, and are part of precisely the same campaign, that is, the Third Great Jihad against all non-Muslims everywhere, its final mad goal being Islam, Islam uber alles.</p>
<p>Both India and Israel are right at the top of the To-Do list for disgruntled jihadis who simply will not accept that sometimes stolen goods (Indian land; Jewish land) get taken right back from the thieves (Muslim imperialists) by the rightful owners (Hindu &amp; Sikh Indians in the case of India; Jews, in the case of Eretz Israel).</p>
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		<title>By: Aussie Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aussie Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 09:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Madelyn,

Stay safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madelyn,</p>
<p>Stay safe.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/05/15/ashkelon-struck/#comment-17587</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 08:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I mention that it wasn't a Qassam, but a Grad rocket, I'm not nitpicking. It's important, because the international media portrays Qassams as nuisances. That's far from the truth, but Grad rockets are military hardware with greater range and destructive power. Even our "friends" in the media admit that Iran supplies these rockets to the various Palestinian terrorist groups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I mention that it wasn&#8217;t a Qassam, but a Grad rocket, I&#8217;m not nitpicking. It&#8217;s important, because the international media portrays Qassams as nuisances. That&#8217;s far from the truth, but Grad rockets are military hardware with greater range and destructive power. Even our &#8220;friends&#8221; in the media admit that Iran supplies these rockets to the various Palestinian terrorist groups.</p>
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		<title>By: Madelyn</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/05/15/ashkelon-struck/#comment-17586</link>
		<dc:creator>Madelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 08:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, after the bombing we checked all of the international news channels and I can say that at least within the first two hours of the attack, I didn't see anything on any of the channels. Also left out of the news article that you posted was the fact that the main area that was hit in the mall was upstairs in the Clalit health care clinic where the hardest hit section was the children's clinic which is why there were a few children who were listed as seriously injured including a physician.
I was on my way home from work when I first saw the smoke from Ashkelon, and the first thing that I remarked to my brother in law (with me at the time) was that it could be a qassam. It's constantly on my mind as my daughter goes to school in Ashkelon and the rockets have already landed in the area of the school. We worry constantly.I live 5 minutes from this mall - you can't imagine the amount of sirens that flew by my moshav well into the first hour after the bombing. I truly hope that this govt. will start moving their asses and do the right thing - although I already know that they won't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, after the bombing we checked all of the international news channels and I can say that at least within the first two hours of the attack, I didn&#8217;t see anything on any of the channels. Also left out of the news article that you posted was the fact that the main area that was hit in the mall was upstairs in the Clalit health care clinic where the hardest hit section was the children&#8217;s clinic which is why there were a few children who were listed as seriously injured including a physician.<br />
I was on my way home from work when I first saw the smoke from Ashkelon, and the first thing that I remarked to my brother in law (with me at the time) was that it could be a qassam. It&#8217;s constantly on my mind as my daughter goes to school in Ashkelon and the rockets have already landed in the area of the school. We worry constantly.I live 5 minutes from this mall - you can&#8217;t imagine the amount of sirens that flew by my moshav well into the first hour after the bombing. I truly hope that this govt. will start moving their asses and do the right thing - although I already know that they won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 07:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, sorry. I was looking for something like "Israeli mall hit by Terrorists' Iranian rocket, dozens wounded"

I forgot that we're "clashing."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, sorry. I was looking for something like &#8220;Israeli mall hit by Terrorists&#8217; Iranian rocket, dozens wounded&#8221;</p>
<p>I forgot that we&#8217;re &#8220;clashing.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Aussie Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aussie Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 06:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh,

They mentioned it in typically biased fashion.

See 2:50PM update in my post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh,</p>
<p>They mentioned it in typically biased fashion.</p>
<p>See 2:50PM update in my post.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/05/15/ashkelon-struck/#comment-17582</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 06:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone noticed that CNN.com never even covered this attack?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone noticed that CNN.com never even covered this attack?</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Herman</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/05/15/ashkelon-struck/#comment-17572</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol Herman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as Bush is president, any gains made by Israel, on the ground, with foot soldiers, will be handed off to Abbas.

Again, because this is such an important point.  Bush would love the IDF to bring "presents" to Abbas.  

So far, Americans have learned a big truth about Irak.  We don't like being there.  (Any more than Israelis liked being IN Lebanon.)  

It's perhaps time to recognize that the way fighting will proceed will change.  (While oil is still the world's best currency; because technology depends on it!)

The other question?  Can Hamas unleash the horrors of the Intifada?  Where people couldn't use public transportation, without worrying about exploding monsters.

You know, you'll get into your cars to drive, even though there's an element to driving, especially where other drivers are concerned; that makes driving hazardous.

With these missiles from gaza?

From the sea and the air, gaza can be demolished.  But if that were to happen?  Jews would be seen as savages.

So, I'll guess that what's ahead is a slow process.  With the IDF and Shin Bet locating a few terrorists at a time, and canceling their tickets.

Anything else?  And the sheiks in Riyadh get happy.  Israel does the heavy lifting, and the rewards go to Abbas.  Which is the same thing as watching Saniora, now.

Lebanon remains viable only because they produce the best hashhish in the world.  Which is the reason a mafia organization like Assad's, works.  

The UN, meanwhile, is a joke.  140 dictatorships.  And, rampant anti-semitism.  No cures in sight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as Bush is president, any gains made by Israel, on the ground, with foot soldiers, will be handed off to Abbas.</p>
<p>Again, because this is such an important point.  Bush would love the IDF to bring &#8220;presents&#8221; to Abbas.  </p>
<p>So far, Americans have learned a big truth about Irak.  We don&#8217;t like being there.  (Any more than Israelis liked being IN Lebanon.)  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s perhaps time to recognize that the way fighting will proceed will change.  (While oil is still the world&#8217;s best currency; because technology depends on it!)</p>
<p>The other question?  Can Hamas unleash the horrors of the Intifada?  Where people couldn&#8217;t use public transportation, without worrying about exploding monsters.</p>
<p>You know, you&#8217;ll get into your cars to drive, even though there&#8217;s an element to driving, especially where other drivers are concerned; that makes driving hazardous.</p>
<p>With these missiles from gaza?</p>
<p>From the sea and the air, gaza can be demolished.  But if that were to happen?  Jews would be seen as savages.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;ll guess that what&#8217;s ahead is a slow process.  With the IDF and Shin Bet locating a few terrorists at a time, and canceling their tickets.</p>
<p>Anything else?  And the sheiks in Riyadh get happy.  Israel does the heavy lifting, and the rewards go to Abbas.  Which is the same thing as watching Saniora, now.</p>
<p>Lebanon remains viable only because they produce the best hashhish in the world.  Which is the reason a mafia organization like Assad&#8217;s, works.  </p>
<p>The UN, meanwhile, is a joke.  140 dictatorships.  And, rampant anti-semitism.  No cures in sight.</p>
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