<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Wanting More Catmeat For Themselves</title> <atom:link href="http://www.israellycool.com/2008/06/24/wanting-more-catmeat-for-themselves/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/06/24/wanting-more-catmeat-for-themselves/</link> <description>Down Under Punditry in the Middle East</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 07:58:23 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: Kibi</title><link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/06/24/wanting-more-catmeat-for-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-18352</link> <dc:creator>Kibi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:00:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.israellycool.com/?p=6082#comment-18352</guid> <description>I think 2 issues are being conflated here - there&#039;s polygamy and then there&#039;s forced marriage. Thy are 2 separate things.Forced marriage - whether of minors or &quot;adults&quot; who are unable to have a say) is obviously wrong.As for polygamy here&#039;s a couple of points:1. Judaism accepts polygamy 2. Nobody seems to have asked any of the women in these marriages if they are happy - sorry Ms. &quot;dumbledoresarmy&quot; - you saying you can&#039;t imagine someone wanting it doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not what other people want. 3. If someone Muslim expresses himself badly that doesn&#039;t actually nullify his argument. You might not like him saying his reasons for marrying a second wife, but that doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s wrong. If a Jew badly expresses his love of Shabbat does that mean Shabbat is wrong?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think 2 issues are being conflated here &#8211; there&#8217;s polygamy and then there&#8217;s forced marriage. Thy are 2 separate things.</p><p>Forced marriage &#8211; whether of minors or &#8220;adults&#8221; who are unable to have a say) is obviously wrong.</p><p>As for polygamy here&#8217;s a couple of points:</p><p>1. Judaism accepts polygamy<br /> 2. Nobody seems to have asked any of the women in these marriages if they are happy &#8211; sorry Ms. &#8220;dumbledoresarmy&#8221; &#8211; you saying you can&#8217;t imagine someone wanting it doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not what other people want.<br /> 3. If someone Muslim expresses himself badly that doesn&#8217;t actually nullify his argument. You might not like him saying his reasons for marrying a second wife, but that doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s wrong. If a Jew badly expresses his love of Shabbat does that mean Shabbat is wrong?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: dumbledoresarmy</title><link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/06/24/wanting-more-catmeat-for-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-18346</link> <dc:creator>dumbledoresarmy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:53:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.israellycool.com/?p=6082#comment-18346</guid> <description>You know what gets me?  These ...wretched excuses for men don&#039;t seem to have the tiniest idea that they might be able to, oh, exercise a leetle bit of self control? They don&#039;t seem to begin to imagine the idea of working hard to love, cherish, please and care for JUST ONE WOMAN, and see her blossoming in that loving care.  Nah: with a lot of Muslim men, it seems it&#039;s monkey see more banana, monkey want more banana, monkey GRAB.  Meanwhile, plenty of Jewish and Christian men, and men of no religion, and men of other faiths, seem to be able to stick to just one wife, all their lives long.  Sure, some are tempted.  Some fall, and cheat, or take a mistress, or divorce and remarry.  But lots manage to stay faithful. Monogamy is still the Gold Standard. Speaking as a wife who&#039;s enjoyed 23 years of monogamous marriage, to a faithful husband, I CANNOT comprehend any woman so stupid as to be willing to share her man with ANYONE else, or to consent to be wife #2, #3, #4, or a &#039;woman whom the right hand possesses&#039; (concubine), if she has any choice in the matter at all [of course, if she&#039;s aged 7 and upwards, in a traditional Muslim family, she gets handed over to the guy whether she wants or not; she&#039;s a thing, not a person].  I hope the Australian authorities have the guts to clamp down HARD: any Muslim caught conducting, or planning, or taking part in, a polygamous marriage, should be BOOTED OUT of the country, sans citizenship.  BTW - Aboriginal Australians used to practise polygamy but so far as I know the women at least were very pleased to switch to Euro/Christian-style monogamy (you find stable monogamous Aboriginal couples on record as early as the mid-late 19th century).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what gets me?  These &#8230;wretched excuses for men don&#8217;t seem to have the tiniest idea that they might be able to, oh, exercise a leetle bit of self control? They don&#8217;t seem to begin to imagine the idea of working hard to love, cherish, please and care for JUST ONE WOMAN, and see her blossoming in that loving care.  Nah: with a lot of Muslim men, it seems it&#8217;s monkey see more banana, monkey want more banana, monkey GRAB.  Meanwhile, plenty of Jewish and Christian men, and men of no religion, and men of other faiths, seem to be able to stick to just one wife, all their lives long.  Sure, some are tempted.  Some fall, and cheat, or take a mistress, or divorce and remarry.  But lots manage to stay faithful. Monogamy is still the Gold Standard. Speaking as a wife who&#8217;s enjoyed 23 years of monogamous marriage, to a faithful husband, I CANNOT comprehend any woman so stupid as to be willing to share her man with ANYONE else, or to consent to be wife #2, #3, #4, or a &#8216;woman whom the right hand possesses&#8217; (concubine), if she has any choice in the matter at all [of course, if she's aged 7 and upwards, in a traditional Muslim family, she gets handed over to the guy whether she wants or not; she's a thing, not a person].  I hope the Australian authorities have the guts to clamp down HARD: any Muslim caught conducting, or planning, or taking part in, a polygamous marriage, should be BOOTED OUT of the country, sans citizenship.  BTW &#8211; Aboriginal Australians used to practise polygamy but so far as I know the women at least were very pleased to switch to Euro/Christian-style monogamy (you find stable monogamous Aboriginal couples on record as early as the mid-late 19th century).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PM</title><link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/06/24/wanting-more-catmeat-for-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-18337</link> <dc:creator>PM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:01:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.israellycool.com/?p=6082#comment-18337</guid> <description>can we book him for promoting illigal activities ( including haram marriages... afterall illegal marriage is also haram, isn&#039;t it ?)was just thinking the urdu word for such person.. whatz that.. &quot;Haramzada&quot;, right ? so shouldn&#039;t all those bastard output of illegal marriage be tagged as Haramzada, as per islamic tradition...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can we book him for promoting illigal activities ( including haram marriages&#8230; afterall illegal marriage is also haram, isn&#8217;t it ?)</p><p>was just thinking the urdu word for such person.. whatz that.. &#8220;Haramzada&#8221;, right ? so shouldn&#8217;t all those bastard output of illegal marriage be tagged as Haramzada, as per islamic tradition&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Paul-Michael Bauer</title><link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/06/24/wanting-more-catmeat-for-themselves/comment-page-1/#comment-18329</link> <dc:creator>Paul-Michael Bauer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:35:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.israellycool.com/?p=6082#comment-18329</guid> <description>*shakes head* Wow.  Just wow.  And people think it&#039;s possible to rationalize with them?Reminds me of that Saudi &quot;Dr. Phil&quot; admonishing young men to not beat their wives, but if they did, gently and never in the face.  I&#039;m sure that was for the sake of woman too.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*shakes head*<br /> Wow.  Just wow.  And people think it&#8217;s possible to rationalize with them?</p><p>Reminds me of that Saudi &#8220;Dr. Phil&#8221; admonishing young men to not beat their wives, but if they did, gently and never in the face.  I&#8217;m sure that was for the sake of woman too.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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