It’s Only Natural
';One of the usual responses by Palestinian Arabs to terror attacks - besides celebration and joy - is to tell the West that these attacks are a “natural reaction” to “Zionist crimes.”
Hamas used those words yesterday as they praised the attack, and a Firas Press op-ed said the same thing this morning.
No one seems to notice that only the Arabs are allowed to “naturally” murder. Israel doesn’t have that luxury - its acts must withstand the tightest scrutiny before even being decided upon. Those evil Zionists cannot naturally believe in revenge or murder because those are, well, evil. But the poor oppressed Palestinian Arabs are naturally allowed to act aggressively.
In other words, those who defend terror attacks in this way are telling the world that all Palestinian Arabs simply do not have the same capacity for free will that the Zionists have.
The defenders and justifiers of terror are the racists, openly saying that Palestinian Arabs cannot act like adults - they are children or animals or mentally disabled people who cannot be blamed for acting in bad ways because they do not have the mental capabilities to think soberly and logically. Only the hated Jews have that ability, you see.
So only the Jews can be blamed for any civilian deaths, because they are the adults and know better. The Palestinian Arabs aren’t.
The world buys into this farce to some extent, always assuming that the Israelis have more ability to act in a logical manner than Arabs can, and therefore asking more concessions from the adults than from the slightly defective children.
Only Israel seems to expect Arabs to act as adults, as people who understand the concept of responsibility and who realize that actions have consequences. For everyone else, including the Arabs themselves, the Arab world can act as it pleases because it simply does not have the maturity that the Jews do.
Arabs acting like animals is “natural,” according to their defenders. Isn’t that as racist as can be?
(crossposted at EoZ)
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July 3rd, 2008 at 5:08 pm
Read the Koran, Israel’s crimes consist of existing and not being Muslim. Muslims have God’s sanction to kill anyone who does not convert or submit to the caliphate. What’s not to get?
Best regards,
Gail
July 4th, 2008 at 4:31 am
You’re wrong. It’s not because the world thinks Arabs are less civilized. It’s because they think we deserve it.
-ron
July 4th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
“Read the Koran”
“And [remember] when Moses said to his people: ‘O my people, call in remembrance the favour of God unto you, when he produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave to you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. O my people, enter the Holy Land which God has assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.’” [Qur'an 5:20-21]
So?
July 4th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
“It’s not because the world thinks Arabs are less civilized. It’s because they think we deserve it.”
Actually, in my experience the world thinks both.
July 4th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
So, Mr. Brehm, you’re either very selective or you tired too soon to continue reading the remaining verses in their full and final context:
Savvy?
You might also want to go back and read verses 12 and 13 in the same Sura. Speaking of the very same verse 13 in Sura 5, Robert Spencer notes:
So……….. do you prefer Allusi or Tabari?
July 4th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
“So, Mr. Brehm, you’re either very selective or you tired too soon to continue reading the remaining verses”
Neither. I just didn’t quote EVERY instance of the Quran mentioning the Children of Israel.
The Quran mentions both exiles. I don’t think anybody questions the exiles.
Perhaps you should read earlier as well as later verses as well:
5.12. Allah did aforetime take a covenant from the Children of Israel, and we appointed twelve captains among them. And Allah said: “I am with you: if ye (but) establish regular prayers, practise regular charity, believe in my apostles, honour and assist them, and loan to Allah a beautiful loan, verily I will wipe out from you your evils, and admit you to gardens with rivers flowing beneath; but if any of you, after this, resisteth faith, he hath truly wandered from the path or rectitude.”
5.13. But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind.
It is not unknown, I think, that the Quran describes Allah as all-forgiving. And the punishment for the sins of the Children of Israel was exile. Twice.
5.69. Those who believe (in the Qur’an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
5.70. We took the covenant of the Children of Israel and sent them apostles, every time, there came to them an apostle with what they themselves desired not - some (of these) they called impostors, and some they (go so far as to) slay.
5.71. They thought there would be no trial (or punishment); so they became blind and deaf; yet Allah (in mercy) turned to them; yet again many of them became blind and deaf. But Allah sees well all that they do.
There were two exiles because the Children of Israel became “blind and deaf” [to the word of Allah]. And Allah, presumably the all-forgiving forgave both.
And the Land of Israel is mentioned again:
17.101. To Moses We did give Nine Clear Signs: As the Children of Israel: when he came to them, Pharaoh said to him: “O Moses! I consider thee, indeed, to have been worked upon by sorcery!
17.102. Moses said, “Thou knowest well that these things have been sent down by none but the Lord of the heavens and the earth as eye-opening evidence: and I consider thee indeed, O Pharaoh, to be one doomed to destruction!”
17.103. So he resolved to remove them from the face of the earth: but We did drown him and all who were with him.
17.104. And We said thereafter to the Children of Israel, “Dwell securely in the land (of promise)”: but when the second of the warnings came to pass, We gathered you together in a mingled crowd.
The Quran (correctly) predicted that the Children of Israel would return before the end of time.
When the Muslims took Jerusalem (from the Persians), the Caliph even announced the end of the exile and invited the Jews to come back.
And they came, although it took another 1200 years while the country changed effective owners a few times.
The Caliph himself was dismayed at the state of the site of the Temple.
You see, I read the entire thing.
The Quran does indeed not call on Muslims to kill infidels, but does categorically state that the Land of Israel was given to the Children of Israel by Allah Himself.
So, yes, I think our friend Gail should read the Quran. It might surprise him.
As for your intentions, I don’t understand what that was about. You are adding no new information as the exiles as punishment were known (and are also understood as such in Judaism). And the question of which MAN is supposed to decide on Allah’s behalf whom to forgive and when is a question I myself find blasphemous.
The Quran just says to forgive them, not to forgive them under certain circumstances.
Either way 9:29 speaks of pagans mentioned in 9:28, those who “believe not in Allah or the last day”. This concerns even the Children of Israel (”People of the Book”) as some of them could hold pagan beliefs. But the Jewish religion does believe in Allah and the last day.
Judaism is a “true” religion according to the constitution of Medina written by Muhammed himself.
Whatever people might think Muhammed had planned regarding dhimmi status and special taxes, he certainly didn’t apply those rules when he actually did run an Islamic state, in which Jews, as a “People of the Book” and followers of the same G-d and a true religion, had the same rights as Muslims.
July 4th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
Nah, I don’t agree with you Brehm. But I definitely hear where you’re coming from.
As for the passages you’re citing, it’s all nonsense.
Let’s pretend I have a book describing how people should conduct themselves, and in that book I say that Koreans should be treated with utmost respect.
Then a couple of chapters later I describe how I personally slaughtered an entire tribe of Koreans, murdered all the men and most of the children and raped their widows throughout the night; in addition I make it clear that the only way I could do this was by establishing a peace agreement which I happily violated.
Now which part do you think is going to have the most impact? The part where I mouth off laws and abstract concepts, or the part where I describe what I actually did?
Disclaimer: I’ll admit that I didn’t read through the Koran, most of what I’m saying is based on hearsay, and if I’m wrong I’ll be glad to retract it.
-ron
July 5th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
“it’s only natural” -
It all stems from the perception of both arabs and most of the world, that Palestinians are the oppressed party. Thus, following this train of thought, it is only natural for them to oppose the oppressors, it is only natural for random Palestinians to snap and go on a shooting spree or whatever.
And I agree that they are oppressed. But they are oppressed because of their sheer blindness, stupidity and the historically proven inability to organize into anything else than a squad of thugs.
July 5th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
Concerning the Quran: it is not being told in chronological order and therefore cannot be read as such. The verses do have a time difference of Mecca and Medina period, though. One period being friendlier towards Jews and other believers than during the other one.
July 6th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Of course, this would be spinned around to be blamed on the Jews. Aren’t all things eventually blamed on the Jews? We can see throughout history how the Jewish people have been accused of being behind everything wicked and wrong with this world. It make sense that these monsters would turn it around and blame Israel. This monster is being made out to be a hero who was just acting natural against Israeli aggression. This makes me sick. I say expel all the Palestinians to Jordan and the rest of the Arab world. Let them deal with them. Israel is for the Jews. You can’t make peace with people like these.