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		<title>By: Aliya</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/07/13/more-confirmation-of-root-cause-of-islamic-terrorism/#comment-18697</link>
		<dc:creator>Aliya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the Qur'an is not corrupted, as it was not only written down and collected into book form, but also memorized by many people during the lifetime of Muhammad (PBUH&#38;HP). hadiths, histories, etc. are not protected from corruption, fabrication, in the same way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Qur&#8217;an is not corrupted, as it was not only written down and collected into book form, but also memorized by many people during the lifetime of Muhammad (PBUH&amp;HP). hadiths, histories, etc. are not protected from corruption, fabrication, in the same way.</p>
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		<title>By: Aliya</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/07/13/more-confirmation-of-root-cause-of-islamic-terrorism/#comment-18696</link>
		<dc:creator>Aliya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, clarification on my dhimmi comment, as I realize it might be taken in a way I didn't mean it. What I mean to say is, if you can see the wisdom in treating group X in such a way that protects the wellbeing of a society, even if that means group X isn't given all the rights and privileges of another group (the ruling group) in that society, then why criticize the dhimmi thing, when it's in essence the same thing. 


Peace Salaam, and Shalom

Aliya (convinced there IS common ground, we just have to be willing to see it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, clarification on my dhimmi comment, as I realize it might be taken in a way I didn&#8217;t mean it. What I mean to say is, if you can see the wisdom in treating group X in such a way that protects the wellbeing of a society, even if that means group X isn&#8217;t given all the rights and privileges of another group (the ruling group) in that society, then why criticize the dhimmi thing, when it&#8217;s in essence the same thing. </p>
<p>Peace Salaam, and Shalom</p>
<p>Aliya (convinced there IS common ground, we just have to be willing to see it.)</p>
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		<title>By: Shy Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/07/13/more-confirmation-of-root-cause-of-islamic-terrorism/#comment-18694</link>
		<dc:creator>Shy Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Shy Guy, Islam, as it was revealed, has been corrupted after the death of Prophet Muhammad&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Is the Quran, as it exists today, corrupt? Yes or no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Shy Guy, Islam, as it was revealed, has been corrupted after the death of Prophet Muhammad</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Is the Quran, as it exists today, corrupt? Yes or no?</p>
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		<title>By: Aliya</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/07/13/more-confirmation-of-root-cause-of-islamic-terrorism/#comment-18693</link>
		<dc:creator>Aliya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I have now replied your e-mail, and I hope we can move to put this rough start (caused largely by my not having read your e-mail until after you notified me of it here) behind us and move forward toward a better understanding, G-D willing.

Peace, Salaam, and Shalom.

Aliya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I have now replied your e-mail, and I hope we can move to put this rough start (caused largely by my not having read your e-mail until after you notified me of it here) behind us and move forward toward a better understanding, G-D willing.</p>
<p>Peace, Salaam, and Shalom.</p>
<p>Aliya</p>
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		<title>By: Aliya</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/07/13/more-confirmation-of-root-cause-of-islamic-terrorism/#comment-18692</link>
		<dc:creator>Aliya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

sorry for not replying to the e-mail, last time I checked it (not my main e-mail) I didn't have any e-mails from you. It wasn't a rejection.

Second, I do oppose such so called Muslims, but don't call for their killing, etc. I make it a point to point out what Islam truly teaches, and back up my stance with proof. ALL religions are subject to dangerous and/or misguided ideologies. Mocking them doesn't do as much good as refuting their claims with proof. I am very active in such 'intra-faith' dialogues, and know it doesn't serve any good to lower myself to their level.

as for the name calling, I commented on the particular podcast, I seem to recall it was in response to an article, although the exact topic I can't quite recall (I listened to all the podcast in the span of less than a week, the topics tend to blur a little in my memory). I do recall the gist of my commentary was your lack of actual rebuttal, but rather your replies were all along the line of 'no we don't (insert name called), well maybe we do... ok yeah, we do, but the Jews have it worse'. It smacked of people complaining about dhimmi status when it applies to them in so called Muslim countries (no country in the world practices Islam as it's written, and was practiced by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH&#38;HP) so I dislike the term in relation to today's societies, because NONE are TRULY Islamic, but rather the leaders' interpretation, and culture), and yet enforcing that dhimmi status on others.

Shy Guy, Islam, as it was revealed, has been corrupted after the death of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH&#38;HP). and while I believe, with reason, that one school of thought (not the majority) is closer to true Islam, I would not look to history much after the death of the prophet Muhammad (PBUH&#38;HP) as an example of what Islam is. Just as I don't believe christianity is represented by the crusades, the inquisition, or the evangelists of today.

If you have SPECIFIC questions, I would be more than willing to do my best to answer them. 

Peace, Salaam, and Shalom

Aliya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>sorry for not replying to the e-mail, last time I checked it (not my main e-mail) I didn&#8217;t have any e-mails from you. It wasn&#8217;t a rejection.</p>
<p>Second, I do oppose such so called Muslims, but don&#8217;t call for their killing, etc. I make it a point to point out what Islam truly teaches, and back up my stance with proof. ALL religions are subject to dangerous and/or misguided ideologies. Mocking them doesn&#8217;t do as much good as refuting their claims with proof. I am very active in such &#8216;intra-faith&#8217; dialogues, and know it doesn&#8217;t serve any good to lower myself to their level.</p>
<p>as for the name calling, I commented on the particular podcast, I seem to recall it was in response to an article, although the exact topic I can&#8217;t quite recall (I listened to all the podcast in the span of less than a week, the topics tend to blur a little in my memory). I do recall the gist of my commentary was your lack of actual rebuttal, but rather your replies were all along the line of &#8216;no we don&#8217;t (insert name called), well maybe we do&#8230; ok yeah, we do, but the Jews have it worse&#8217;. It smacked of people complaining about dhimmi status when it applies to them in so called Muslim countries (no country in the world practices Islam as it&#8217;s written, and was practiced by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH&amp;HP) so I dislike the term in relation to today&#8217;s societies, because NONE are TRULY Islamic, but rather the leaders&#8217; interpretation, and culture), and yet enforcing that dhimmi status on others.</p>
<p>Shy Guy, Islam, as it was revealed, has been corrupted after the death of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH&amp;HP). and while I believe, with reason, that one school of thought (not the majority) is closer to true Islam, I would not look to history much after the death of the prophet Muhammad (PBUH&amp;HP) as an example of what Islam is. Just as I don&#8217;t believe christianity is represented by the crusades, the inquisition, or the evangelists of today.</p>
<p>If you have SPECIFIC questions, I would be more than willing to do my best to answer them. </p>
<p>Peace, Salaam, and Shalom</p>
<p>Aliya</p>
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		<title>By: Shy Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/07/13/more-confirmation-of-root-cause-of-islamic-terrorism/#comment-18680</link>
		<dc:creator>Shy Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;when it’s clear that you know next to nothing about islam other than what you read in the papers.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Enlighten us. More and more of us read the Quran, ahaddiths and teachings of historic Islam's major spiritual schools, as well as re-studying world history, particulalry the 350-400 year period just prior to the Crusades.
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;‘the thuggery of Islam’, is an offensive generalization.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Good. It should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>when it’s clear that you know next to nothing about islam other than what you read in the papers.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Enlighten us. More and more of us read the Quran, ahaddiths and teachings of historic Islam&#8217;s major spiritual schools, as well as re-studying world history, particulalry the 350-400 year period just prior to the Crusades.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>‘the thuggery of Islam’, is an offensive generalization.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Good. It should be.</p>
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		<title>By: Aussie Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/07/13/more-confirmation-of-root-cause-of-islamic-terrorism/#comment-18675</link>
		<dc:creator>Aussie Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aliya,

Regarding calling people names, please provide some examples. I can remember "Gorilla Boy" off the top of my head, and I stand by that name! It is the least Ahmadinejad deserves. What other names were there?

The Jews for Jesus song came from a CD sent to me by the musicians. Playing the song was the least I could do, and I did not find it offensive (not nearly as offensive as I find Jews for Jesus). I wonder how you would feel about a group who called themselves Muslims but believed things that were entirely against the fundamentals of Islam, and involved adherents trying to "missionize" Muslims. 

I do appreciate you visiting and looking for common ground; I just interpreted your other comment, and choice to make it on here and not respond directly to my email to you, as a rejection of such dialog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aliya,</p>
<p>Regarding calling people names, please provide some examples. I can remember &#8220;Gorilla Boy&#8221; off the top of my head, and I stand by that name! It is the least Ahmadinejad deserves. What other names were there?</p>
<p>The Jews for Jesus song came from a CD sent to me by the musicians. Playing the song was the least I could do, and I did not find it offensive (not nearly as offensive as I find Jews for Jesus). I wonder how you would feel about a group who called themselves Muslims but believed things that were entirely against the fundamentals of Islam, and involved adherents trying to &#8220;missionize&#8221; Muslims. </p>
<p>I do appreciate you visiting and looking for common ground; I just interpreted your other comment, and choice to make it on here and not respond directly to my email to you, as a rejection of such dialog.</p>
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		<title>By: Aliya</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/07/13/more-confirmation-of-root-cause-of-islamic-terrorism/#comment-18673</link>
		<dc:creator>Aliya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not talking about 'making fun' of terrorists. I was actually more referring to calling people names, a particular "Jews for Jesus" song, etc. that I just found offensive and unnecessary. One can make their points, and be humorous without being offensive.

And I wasn't only addressing you, as comments such as 'the thuggery of Islam', is an offensive generalization. 

I don't expect us to agree on many things, but one would think most of us can agree on the 'golden rule' concept. Thus, I am here, not calling names, or making sweeping generalizations, but trying to open a dialogue, and look for common ground.

Peace, salaam, and shalom

Aliya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not talking about &#8216;making fun&#8217; of terrorists. I was actually more referring to calling people names, a particular &#8220;Jews for Jesus&#8221; song, etc. that I just found offensive and unnecessary. One can make their points, and be humorous without being offensive.</p>
<p>And I wasn&#8217;t only addressing you, as comments such as &#8216;the thuggery of Islam&#8217;, is an offensive generalization. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t expect us to agree on many things, but one would think most of us can agree on the &#8216;golden rule&#8217; concept. Thus, I am here, not calling names, or making sweeping generalizations, but trying to open a dialogue, and look for common ground.</p>
<p>Peace, salaam, and shalom</p>
<p>Aliya</p>
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		<title>By: Aussie Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/07/13/more-confirmation-of-root-cause-of-islamic-terrorism/#comment-18672</link>
		<dc:creator>Aussie Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess there won't be much common ground when you take offense at me making fun of terrorists and the genocidal leaders of some Arab countries, even though I am careful not to poke fun at the "average Muslim."

For the record, I have regular Muslim readers and listeners who assure me they are not offended by my comments in the slightest, and in fact appreciate my sense of humor and efforts not to paint all Muslims with the same brush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess there won&#8217;t be much common ground when you take offense at me making fun of terrorists and the genocidal leaders of some Arab countries, even though I am careful not to poke fun at the &#8220;average Muslim.&#8221;</p>
<p>For the record, I have regular Muslim readers and listeners who assure me they are not offended by my comments in the slightest, and in fact appreciate my sense of humor and efforts not to paint all Muslims with the same brush.</p>
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		<title>By: Aliya</title>
		<link>http://www.israellycool.com/2008/07/13/more-confirmation-of-root-cause-of-islamic-terrorism/#comment-18669</link>
		<dc:creator>Aliya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cam here, as a Muslim in hopes of finding some common ground. I listened to all the podcasts, some of which I found very offensive as a person, even things that were supposed to be 'humor'. I am disturbed at the generalizations made about Muslims, and Islam, when it's clear that you know next to nothing about islam other than what you read in the papers.

If the comments made here about islam were instead made about Judaism, you'd be shouting anti-semitism from the roof tops. 

thankfully I know many wonderful Jewish people, so I know that you guys don't represent Judaism, any more than the terrorist represent Islam... I hope you see that someday.

peace, salaam, and shalom

Aliya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cam here, as a Muslim in hopes of finding some common ground. I listened to all the podcasts, some of which I found very offensive as a person, even things that were supposed to be &#8216;humor&#8217;. I am disturbed at the generalizations made about Muslims, and Islam, when it&#8217;s clear that you know next to nothing about islam other than what you read in the papers.</p>
<p>If the comments made here about islam were instead made about Judaism, you&#8217;d be shouting anti-semitism from the roof tops. </p>
<p>thankfully I know many wonderful Jewish people, so I know that you guys don&#8217;t represent Judaism, any more than the terrorist represent Islam&#8230; I hope you see that someday.</p>
<p>peace, salaam, and shalom</p>
<p>Aliya</p>
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