Comments on: The Day In Israel: Thursday Feb 4th, 2010 http://www.israellycool.com/2010/02/04/the-day-in-israel-thursday-feb-4th-2010/ Down Under Punditry in the Middle East Sat, 26 May 2012 14:00:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Keiko_Infidelhttp://www.israellycool.com/2010/02/04/the-day-in-israel-thursday-feb-4th-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-24675 Keiko_Infidel Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:07:22 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=18130#comment-24675 //You dont see all these bleeding heart show compassion commercials on TV saying "Like the Holocaust, these poor people suffer on a regular basis."// I agree with you totally--that is disgusting. And that is not what Berlusconi did. But by all means continue to perpetuate anger, enemy-mongering, and manufacturing outrage if you sincerely believe it makes your life more complete! o.0 //You dont see all these bleeding heart show compassion commercials on TV saying "Like the Holocaust, these poor people suffer on a regular basis."//

I agree with you totally–that is disgusting. And that is not what Berlusconi did.

But by all means continue to perpetuate anger, enemy-mongering, and manufacturing outrage if you sincerely believe it makes your life more complete!

o.0

]]> By: Keiko_Infidelhttp://www.israellycool.com/2010/02/04/the-day-in-israel-thursday-feb-4th-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-24673 Keiko_Infidel Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:01:49 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=18130#comment-24673 I equated nothing to nothing. Stop reading in to things that aren't there. Stop making enemies (including fellows posters) where there aren't any. Stop seeing a persecution, offense, or conspiracy with every printed word. The only thing "obscene" here the manufactured outrage of some posters every time the words "Jews" and "Holocaust" are used--no matter with what intention those words are used. Why you would want to manufacture insults and offenses is beyond me. It only impedes the precious effort of non-Jews to support and defend Israel and the Jewish people. It is a dead-end street. I equated nothing to nothing. Stop reading in to things that aren't there. Stop making enemies (including fellows posters) where there aren't any. Stop seeing a persecution, offense, or conspiracy with every printed word.

The only thing "obscene" here the manufactured outrage of some posters every time the words "Jews" and "Holocaust" are used–no matter with what intention those words are used.

Why you would want to manufacture insults and offenses is beyond me. It only impedes the precious effort of non-Jews to support and defend Israel and the Jewish people. It is a dead-end street.

]]> By: Michael Zvi Krumbeinhttp://www.israellycool.com/2010/02/04/the-day-in-israel-thursday-feb-4th-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-24591 Michael Zvi Krumbein Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:04:44 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=18130#comment-24591 Here I have to disagree strongly. Yes, the Holocaust IS the property of the Jewish people, unfortunately. The Nazis did not set out to exterminate anyone else, not even the gypsies. I think it is obscene (no offense) to call it a human tragedy, because that, in a sense, equates the persecutor with the victim - they were all human, after all.And the holocaust was not unique, either. It was simply the culmination and concentration of thousands of years of persecution of the Jewish people - by the pagans, then the Christians, then the Moslems, and finally the ideologues, the practitioners of secular religions (not that the old fashioned kind didn't help).We bought it, we paid for it, and it's ours. G-d help us. Here I have to disagree strongly. Yes, the Holocaust IS the property of the Jewish people, unfortunately. The Nazis did not set out to exterminate anyone else, not even the gypsies. I think it is obscene (no offense) to call it a human tragedy, because that, in a sense, equates the persecutor with the victim – they were all human, after all.

And the holocaust was not unique, either. It was simply the culmination and concentration of thousands of years of persecution of the Jewish people – by the pagans, then the Christians, then the Moslems, and finally the ideologues, the practitioners of secular religions (not that the old fashioned kind didn’t help).

We bought it, we paid for it, and it’s ours. G-d help us.

]]> By: juvanyahttp://www.israellycool.com/2010/02/04/the-day-in-israel-thursday-feb-4th-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-24588 juvanya Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:58:38 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=18130#comment-24588 No, I am saying that there was absolutely no reason to bring it up and the only reason someone would bring it up would be to compare it. You dont see all these bleeding heart show compassion commercials on TV saying "Like the Holocaust, these poor people suffer on a regular basis." I'm sorry, but that's just unacceptable to do something like that. Not to even mention how much anti-Israelis compare the Arab "suffering" to the Holocaust. See Ahmadinejad, Mahmoud. No, I am saying that there was absolutely no reason to bring it up and the only reason someone would bring it up would be to compare it. You dont see all these bleeding heart show compassion commercials on TV saying "Like the Holocaust, these poor people suffer on a regular basis."

I'm sorry, but that's just unacceptable to do something like that. Not to even mention how much anti-Israelis compare the Arab "suffering" to the Holocaust. See Ahmadinejad, Mahmoud.

]]> By: Keiko_Infidelhttp://www.israellycool.com/2010/02/04/the-day-in-israel-thursday-feb-4th-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-24587 Keiko_Infidel Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:51:23 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=18130#comment-24587 So now you're suggesting that no one has any right to mention the Holocaust at all. If they do, they incur the accusations and slander of people who want to act like the Holocaust is some kind of material object that you have sole copyrights to. The Holocaust was a human tragedy. It's not something that belongs solely to one group of people, although the pain and memory of it is greater for that one group, yes. Anyone should be free to discuss it, to feel sorrow for it--no matter their nationality or creed, without constantly being judged, critiqued, analyzed, and accused over every word.I'll say it again and be finished: Don't look for an enemy where there isn't one. Be happy for the support and friendship Israel and the Jews have. So now you’re suggesting that no one has any right to mention the Holocaust at all. If they do, they incur the accusations and slander of people who want to act like the Holocaust is some kind of material object that you have sole copyrights to. The Holocaust was a human tragedy. It’s not something that belongs solely to one group of people, although the pain and memory of it is greater for that one group, yes. Anyone should be free to discuss it, to feel sorrow for it–no matter their nationality or creed, without constantly being judged, critiqued, analyzed, and accused over every word.

I’ll say it again and be finished: Don’t look for an enemy where there isn’t one. Be happy for the support and friendship Israel and the Jews have.

]]> By: juvanyahttp://www.israellycool.com/2010/02/04/the-day-in-israel-thursday-feb-4th-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-24552 juvanya Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:17:50 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=18130#comment-24552 The fact that he even mentioned the Holocaust means that he was comparing them. If he wanted to talk about showing pain, he did not need to mention it. The fact that he even mentioned the Holocaust means that he was comparing them. If he wanted to talk about showing pain, he did not need to mention it.

]]> By: Keiko_Infidelhttp://www.israellycool.com/2010/02/04/the-day-in-israel-thursday-feb-4th-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-24542 Keiko_Infidel Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:42:27 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=18130#comment-24542 My sanity has nothing to do with it. My reading and comprehension skills have everything to do with it. I'm judging the excerpt that is given. He does not compare the two. He simply says it's all right to show pain for victims of both. To compare is to draw a likeness or similarity between the two events. That's not what he did in that excerpt. Israel has plenty of enemies. No need to try and invent one. My sanity has nothing to do with it. My reading and comprehension skills have everything to do with it. I'm judging the excerpt that is given. He does not compare the two. He simply says it's all right to show pain for victims of both. To compare is to draw a likeness or similarity between the two events. That's not what he did in that excerpt.

Israel has plenty of enemies. No need to try and invent one.

]]> By: It all depends on your definition of “bully…” « The Palestine Sentinelhttp://www.israellycool.com/2010/02/04/the-day-in-israel-thursday-feb-4th-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-24517 It all depends on your definition of “bully…” « The Palestine Sentinel Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:07:27 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=18130#comment-24517 [...] I suppose a good many of us did a double take (which is a nice way of saying ‘spit our coffee all over the monitor’) the other day when we saw that Syria just wants Israel to “stop being the neighborhood bully.”  [...] [...] I suppose a good many of us did a double take (which is a nice way of saying ‘spit our coffee all over the monitor’) the other day when we saw that Syria just wants Israel to “stop being the neighborhood bully.”  [...]

]]> By: Pauliehttp://www.israellycool.com/2010/02/04/the-day-in-israel-thursday-feb-4th-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-24482 Paulie Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:12:43 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=18130#comment-24482 The report on ice hockey was indeed done by Arieh O'Sullivan who used to work for the Post, but he now works for The Media Line News Agency.Anybody who wants more info on recreational hockey in Israel can go to the website: http://www.israelhockeyassociation.org The report on ice hockey was indeed done by Arieh O’Sullivan who used to work for the Post, but he now works for The Media Line News Agency.

Anybody who wants more info on recreational hockey in Israel can go to the website:
http://www.israelhockeyassociation.org

]]> By: Michael Zvi Krumbeinhttp://www.israellycool.com/2010/02/04/the-day-in-israel-thursday-feb-4th-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-24471 Michael Zvi Krumbein Sun, 07 Feb 2010 06:41:25 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=18130#comment-24471 I kind of have to agree with both of you. Reading his statement, it would seem uncalled for from a military action where a relatively small number of civilians (no-one knows of course how many were civilians) were killed. On the other hand, on the baisc issue, it is hard to blame the entire population. I once spoke to a young man who served in the Gaza house-to-house fighting unit (I don't believe he actually had to fight house-to-house during his service). He felt that the avarage Gazan was not necessarily hostile. As far as the polls are concerned - well, it's not like Gaza (or the PA!) is a free country. I kind of have to agree with both of you. Reading his statement, it would seem uncalled for from a military action where a relatively small number of civilians (no-one knows of course how many were civilians) were killed.

On the other hand, on the baisc issue, it is hard to blame the entire population. I once spoke to a young man who served in the Gaza house-to-house fighting unit (I don't believe he actually had to fight house-to-house during his service). He felt that the avarage Gazan was not necessarily hostile. As far as the polls are concerned – well, it's not like Gaza (or the PA!) is a free country.

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