Comments on: The Day In Israel: Thursday Mar 18th, 2010 http://www.israellycool.com/2010/03/18/the-day-in-israel-thursday-mar-18th-2010/ Down Under Punditry in the Middle East Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:56:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Michael Zvi Krumbein http://www.israellycool.com/2010/03/18/the-day-in-israel-thursday-mar-18th-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-26505 Michael Zvi Krumbein Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:24:15 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=18855#comment-26505 Well, Obama at least is talking to the enemy (Fox news). I suppose that's progress. Well, Obama at least is talking to the enemy (Fox news). I suppose that’s progress.

]]> By: Big bad Israel fights back — Winds Of Jihad By SheikYerMami http://www.israellycool.com/2010/03/18/the-day-in-israel-thursday-mar-18th-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-26449 Big bad Israel fights back — Winds Of Jihad By SheikYerMami Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:46:07 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=18855#comment-26449 [...] deal, instead of go to the effort of creating a fake one.Furthermore, it sure looks real to me. More>> Share and Enjoy:Tagged as: Israel fights back after rocket attackJoin the discussion... Too small? [...] [...] deal, instead of go to the effort of creating a fake one.Furthermore, it sure looks real to me. More>> Share and Enjoy:Tagged as: Israel fights back after rocket attackJoin the discussion… Too small? [...]

]]> By: johnboy2 http://www.israellycool.com/2010/03/18/the-day-in-israel-thursday-mar-18th-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-26435 johnboy2 Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:31:09 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=18855#comment-26435 " PA and PLO are the same in terms of views and objectives." No,actually. Tthe PLO is a national liberation movement, and so its world-view and its obectives are very distinct from the PA, which is a local AUTHORITY designed for one specific purpose i.e. to act as training wheels for the Palestinians to exercise some degree of local autonomy while they build up the infrastructure of a sovereign state. "You don't get to insult me on my blog" !!!!!! It is NOT an insult to you to say that your ARGUMENT that the PA is Israel's negotiating partner is "ignorant nonsense" when I have, demonstrably, shown it to be ignorant nonsense. "So consider yourself banned." I will point out right here and now that Dave's one and only means of having "the last word" is to blurt them out and then immediately muzzle me. You must feel very proud of yourself, Dave... " PA and PLO are the same in terms of views and objectives."

No,actually.

Tthe PLO is a national liberation movement, and so its world-view and its obectives are very distinct from the PA, which is a local AUTHORITY designed for one specific purpose i.e. to act as training wheels for the Palestinians to exercise some degree of local autonomy while they build up the infrastructure of a sovereign state.

"You don't get to insult me on my blog"

!!!!!! It is NOT an insult to you to say that your ARGUMENT that the PA is Israel's negotiating partner is "ignorant nonsense" when I have, demonstrably, shown it to be ignorant nonsense.

"So consider yourself banned."

I will point out right here and now that Dave's one and only means of having "the last word" is to blurt them out and then immediately muzzle me.

You must feel very proud of yourself, Dave…

]]> By: Johnboy http://www.israellycool.com/2010/03/18/the-day-in-israel-thursday-mar-18th-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-26434 Johnboy Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:30:46 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=18855#comment-26434 " PA and PLO are the same in terms of views and objectives." No,actually. Tthe PLO is a national liberation movement, and so its world-view and its obectives are very distinct from the PA, which is a local AUTHORITY designed for one specific purpose i.e. to act as training wheels for the Palestinians to exercise some degree of local autonomy while they build up the infrastructure of a sovereign state. "You don't get to insult me on my blog" !!!!!! It is NOT an insult to you to say that your ARGUMENT that the PA is Israel's negotiating partner is "ignorant nonsense" when I have, demonstrably, shown it to be ignorant nonsense. "So consider yourself banned." I will point out right here and now that Dave's one and only means of having "the last word" is to blurt them out and then immediately muzzle me. You must feel very proud of yourself, Dave... " PA and PLO are the same in terms of views and objectives."

No,actually.

Tthe PLO is a national liberation movement, and so its world-view and its obectives are very distinct from the PA, which is a local AUTHORITY designed for one specific purpose i.e. to act as training wheels for the Palestinians to exercise some degree of local autonomy while they build up the infrastructure of a sovereign state.

"You don't get to insult me on my blog"

!!!!!! It is NOT an insult to you to say that your ARGUMENT that the PA is Israel's negotiating partner is "ignorant nonsense" when I have, demonstrably, shown it to be ignorant nonsense.

"So consider yourself banned."

I will point out right here and now that Dave's one and only means of having "the last word" is to blurt them out and then immediately muzzle me.

You must feel very proud of yourself, Dave…

]]> By: Michael Zvi Krumbein http://www.israellycool.com/2010/03/18/the-day-in-israel-thursday-mar-18th-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-26425 Michael Zvi Krumbein Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:18:10 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=18855#comment-26425 You just switched from the Geneva Conventions, which are rather significant, to Security Council resolutions, which are less so. You just switched from the Geneva Conventions, which are rather significant, to Security Council resolutions, which are less so.

]]> By: israellycool http://www.israellycool.com/2010/03/18/the-day-in-israel-thursday-mar-18th-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-26417 israellycool Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:23:02 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=18855#comment-26417 I am glad it took you over a day to find a quote to support anything you have said. Problem is, it makes no difference whatsoever. PA and PLO are the same in terms of views and objectives. PLO says they recognize Israel for international support (evidence provided before). But they still really aim for Israel's destruction. And guess what JB? You don't get to insult me on my blog. It is one of those rules about showing courtesy to your host. So consider yourself banned. I'm just glad I got you to prove my point about those who share your views- your arguments don't hold up, no matter how much sophistry you try to engage in. I am also glad I got you to spend so much time trying to prove your point against such an "intellectual lightweight" like me. I am glad it took you over a day to find a quote to support anything you have said. Problem is, it makes no difference whatsoever. PA and PLO are the same in terms of views and objectives. PLO says they recognize Israel for international support (evidence provided before). But they still really aim for Israel's destruction.

And guess what JB? You don't get to insult me on my blog. It is one of those rules about showing courtesy to your host. So consider yourself banned.

I'm just glad I got you to prove my point about those who share your views- your arguments don't hold up, no matter how much sophistry you try to engage in.

I am also glad I got you to spend so much time trying to prove your point against such an "intellectual lightweight" like me.

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]]> By: Johnboy http://www.israellycool.com/2010/03/18/the-day-in-israel-thursday-mar-18th-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-26408 Johnboy Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:49:34 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=18855#comment-26408 " For all intents and purposes, it is the PA with whom Israel is negotiating. " The Prime Minister of the PA was presented with that argument, here.. <a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1107587.html" target="_blank">http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1107587.html</a> His answer was: Fayyad: "Your partner to the final-status agreement is the PLO," Fayyad: "There is no other partner." He. Should. Know. You therefore appear to be placed in a rather indefensible position i.e. you claim that the PA is Israel's negotiating partner, yet the PRIME MINISTER OF THE PA is telling you that you are talking ignorant nonsense. Because, of course, you are talking ignorant nonsense. " For all intents and purposes, it is the PA with whom Israel is negotiating. "

The Prime Minister of the PA was presented with that argument, here..
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1107587.html

His answer was:
Fayyad: "Your partner to the final-status agreement is the PLO,"
Fayyad: "There is no other partner."

He. Should. Know.

You therefore appear to be placed in a rather indefensible position i.e. you claim that the PA is Israel's negotiating partner, yet the PRIME MINISTER OF THE PA is telling you that you are talking ignorant nonsense.

Because, of course, you are talking ignorant nonsense.

]]> By: Johnboy http://www.israellycool.com/2010/03/18/the-day-in-israel-thursday-mar-18th-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-26402 Johnboy Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:03:03 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=18855#comment-26402 I Am Not Responsible For The Shortcomings Of Dave's Pathetic Apology For A Web Site. Therefore I Fail to See What Your Point Actually Is. Care To Enlighten Me????? I
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]]> By: Johnboy http://www.israellycool.com/2010/03/18/the-day-in-israel-thursday-mar-18th-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-26401 Johnboy Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:00:24 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=18855#comment-26401 "Ramat Shlomo is not under "belligerant occuption", and there are no "protected persons" there. It was no-man's land, on but not over the green line. Israel is not occupying it, they (we) annexed it. " Such nonsense, Michael. IF Ramat Shlomo sits on territory that was seized by the IDF by force of arms during the Six Day War THEN it is "Israeli-occupied territory". It falls within the remit of UNSC Resolution 242, and therefore it falls within the remit of ALL subsequent UNSC Resolutions that declare that ALL Israeli attempts to change the legal status of territory seized by the IDF in 1967 is "null and void", and that the Geneva Conventions apply to ALL such territory. "Ramat Shlomo is not under "belligerant occuption", and there are no "protected persons" there. It was no-man's land, on but not over the green line. Israel is not occupying it, they (we) annexed it. "

Such nonsense, Michael.

IF Ramat Shlomo sits on territory that was seized by the IDF by force of arms during the Six Day War THEN it is "Israeli-occupied territory".

It falls within the remit of UNSC Resolution 242, and therefore it falls within the remit of ALL subsequent UNSC Resolutions that declare that ALL Israeli attempts to change the legal status of territory seized by the IDF in 1967 is "null and void", and that the Geneva Conventions apply to ALL such territory.

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