From The (State) Department Of WTF

A few days ago, the US State Department referred to Israel and Jerusalem as separate entities in an official communication, only to later alter it.

Here is US State Department Spokesperson Victoria Nuland fielding questions about this from the AP’s Matthew Lee. 

QUESTION: Yesterday there was a bit of a kerfuffle over an announcement that was made by the Department about the travel of your boss.


QUESTION: Is it the State Department’s position that Jerusalem is not part of Israel?

MS. NULAND: Well, you know that our position on Jerusalem has not changed. The first Media Note was issued in error without appropriate clearances. We reissued the note to make clear that Under Secretary – Acting Under Secretary for R, Kathy Stephens, will be traveling to Algiers, Doha, Amman, Tel Aviv, and Jerusalem. With regard to our Jerusalem policy, it’s a permanent status issue; it’s got to be resolved through negotiations between the parties.

QUESTION: Is it the view of the United States that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, notwithstanding the question about the Embassy, the location of the U.S. Embassy?

MS. NULAND: We are not going to prejudge the outcome of those negotiations, including the final status of Jerusalem.

QUESTION: Does that mean that you do not regard Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?

MS. NULAND: Jerusalem is a permanent status issue; it’s got to be resolved through negotiations.

QUESTION: That seems to suggest that you do not regard Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Is that correct or not?

MS. NULAND: I have just spoken to this issue —

QUESTION: No, no. But —

MS. NULAND: — and I have nothing further to say on it.

QUESTION: You’ve spoken to the issue but didn’t answer the question, and I think there’s a lot of people out there who are interested in hearing a real answer and not saying – and not trying to duck and say that this has got to be resolved by negotiations between the two sides.

MS. NULAND: That is our —

QUESTION: What is the capital of Israel?

MS. NULAND: Our policy with regard to Jerusalem is it has to be solved through negotiations. That’s all I have to say on this issue.

QUESTION: What is the capital of Israel?

MS. NULAND: Our Embassy, as you know, is located in Tel Aviv.

QUESTION: So does that mean that you regard Tel Aviv as the capital of Israel?

MS. NULAND: The issue on Jerusalem has to be settled through negotiations.

She seems like she likes playing Dodgeball..but has probably been hit in the head one time too many.

That was hardly a reassuring performance to say the least.

And in case you are wondering, it is not the first time Matthew Lee has given Nuland a hard time. And he’s certainly not pro-Israel either.

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  • Norman B.

    Whatever Lee’s biases are, he got it right this time. The nonrecognition of Israel as a Jewish state by the Arabs has for decades been the elephant in the diplomatic conference room. And Nuland would be the first to say that denial is a river in Egypt.

  • Jim from Iowa

    I hope at least one take-away from this misadventure in diplomatic-speak, is that the Associated Press, for all it’s faults, is a real news organization not in the tank for the Obama Administration.

    • Shy Guy

      That’s how you draw conclusions? No wonder you’re constantly duped.

      • Jim from Iowa

        Picture a man so deluded that he actually thinks Fox News is a real news organization. Take note of the sign post up ahead, because you’ve just entered the SHY GUY ZONE (cue spooky music).

        • Shy Guy

          1. Fox is definitely more real than CNN, CBS, ABC and MSNBC, you’re lovechildren.

          2. I don’t watch Fox.

          • juvanya

            hahaha owned like a new convertible

          • Jim from Iowa

            Just found out Olbermann fired by Current TV. Yet another acrimonious departure for my beloved Keith. In much pain now. Must find ways to fill new void in my life. Perhaps attacking Shy Guy in IsraellyCool Comments Section will help. Must think this situation through.

            • Norman B.

              Olbermann is being replaced by Eliot Spitzer, Client No. 9 himself. Have fun.

  • Lloyd S.

    I may not like it, but she was just restating what has been the US position since Israel was established. Although Congress has passed several laws recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and directing that the US Embassy, those laws have been viewd as advisory because the Constitution puts the conduct of diplomacy and foreign affairs squarely within the President’s powers. And no President (or Secretary of State), from the most pro-Israel to Jimmy Carter has ever been willing to step over the line and admit that reality is real where Jerusalem is concerned.

  • tom

    well, i have one word: unbelievable. Jerusalem is and will always be Israel’s capital. They can have Mecca and Medina. And the Americans can have, Washington D.C., NYC, L.A., Las Vegas, whatever you wish, as a capital. Maybe not a city in South Dakota, ’cause it’s somewhat not so interesting ;-)

  • unpluggged

    Then Israel must regard Washington, D.C. as an occupied Native American land and not as the capital of the USA.

    The American leaders think they are the masters of the world, but in reality they are no more than a bunch of douchebags led by a marijuana-smoking ape. Who they think they are? Israel has enough nuclear weapons to wipe USA off the map, so they better don’t insult us.

    This fake nation of losers thinks they can decide what is Jerusalem for the ancient Jewish people. Without Jews, there wouldn’t be any USA at all (it would be a few backwards banana republics, like most Latin American countries).

    Obama must be tried at an international tribunal and then executed, like the Nazi war criminals were.

    • Jim from Iowa

      Who you calling a douchebag? You’re right when you say America would not be the country it is today without the Jews. They’ve made enormous contributions to our country and it is unimaginable to think of an America without Jews. As for giving Washington, DC back to the Indians, well, that’s why we have Native American casinos to get back at Great White Father.

      • Shy Guy

        I’d say Obama is definitely a douchebag.

        • Jim from Iowa

          Are we supposed to take a guy like John Bolton seriously? What a douchebag.

          • Shy Guy

            That’s it? Zero + zero is your game.

            • Jim from Iowa

              Whether or not they would say it in public, a lot of Republicans think it’s a bad idea for Israel to attack Iran right now. If John Bolton were still the UN Ambassador under a Republican administration and said what he said on Fox News, he wouldn’t be UN ambassador much longer.

              • Shy Guy

                Ambassador Iowa Jim: “Shut up while King Obama throws Israel under the bus!”

                As always, thanx for playing.

                • Jim from Iowa

                  Only idiots like you and John Bolton think an attack on Iran is a good idea. Most military officials in the U.S. and Israel think it’s a bad idea. When presented other alternatives such as diplomatic and economic sanctions, most Americans and Israelis oppose an attack as well. I’m just hoping that in the final analysis that Netanyahu is a lot smarter than you and will do what’s best for both of our countries.

                  • arcaneone

                    people, don’t be stupid. As a recent immigrant, I still have lots of contacts in the US, and I assure you the great majority of the US is on your side,but you are making it harder for supporters to make the case for Israel when
                    you engage in things like racial slurs. It’s nice that many Israelis are committed enough to contemplate a Masada,
                    but it would be much better if we got through this situation without mass casualties. Living in the US, I expected that with their superior self- discipline,Israel
                    would eventually win.Now I’m not so sure.

                    • Jim from Iowa

                      So if an attack on Iran is to be thought of as Masada by Israelis, then is this supposed to be like the Alamo for the Americans? These are not particularly useful historical comparisons to boost the morale of our two peoples since the Israelis committed suicide at Masada and the Americans died at the hands of a swarm of Mexicans at the Alamo. The Six Day War and the Spanish-American War would work better since we both won and got something out it for going to war.

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