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		<title>By: AEWHistory</title>
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		<dc:creator>AEWHistory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would actually disagree, at least in part.  Yugoslavia did suppress earlier sociology-cultural and religious divisions that came to the surface immediately after the dismemberment if that state.  However, I think it would be misleading to omit the Bosnian and Croat atrocities against Serbs as motivating what was largely retribution for said crimes.  The Croats and Bosnians were really never punished for murdering 600k Serbs, so the Serbs did it.... A couple generations later and to the wrong people.  The ethnic element is there for sure, but don&#039;t forget the Second World War.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would actually disagree, at least in part.  Yugoslavia did suppress earlier sociology-cultural and religious divisions that came to the surface immediately after the dismemberment if that state.  However, I think it would be misleading to omit the Bosnian and Croat atrocities against Serbs as motivating what was largely retribution for said crimes.  The Croats and Bosnians were really never punished for murdering 600k Serbs, so the Serbs did it&#8230;. A couple generations later and to the wrong people.  The ethnic element is there for sure, but don&#8217;t forget the Second World War.</p>
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		<title>By: ziontruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>ziontruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;They were not innocent lambs, and if things had gone differently, history would have had a different outcome, but not a peaceful one.&quot;

Exactly.

Just reading a few excerpts from MEMRI, it&#039;s very clear what would happen if Israel&#039;s enemies were to defeat the Jewish State: Systematic murder of the men and children, rape of the women to be concubines, pillage and looting of all the riches the Jews have worked to build on this land. There is no doubt in my mind that the Serbs would have met such a fate if they hadn&#039;t put up a serious fight against their Islamic imperialist attackers.

So many things are forgotten in the fog of war. In the Israeli War of Independence, Deir Yassin is often brought up as the equivalent of Srebrenica. What a lot of people fail to see is that this isn&#039;t a matter of arguing over what happened, as if this were about Holocaust Denial; it&#039;s about the theater of war itself. Many Arab villages like Deir Yassin were on critical junction points where Jewish convoys with supplies had to pass, so they had to be cleared for the war to be won; usually the Arab villagers fled, but in those cases that they didn&#039;t, like Deir Yassin, what happened was what usually happens in a war: Troops had to get inside the population center and, unfortunately, do the fighting in there. The Islamic warfare tactic of the combatants hiding behind the women and children certainly didn&#039;t help lower the casualty rate. (Jewish Law says the blood is on the hands of the combatants for not putting their own women and children in safety.)

There&#039;s a great chance that what happened in Srebrenica was similar to Deir Yassin: Not that atrocities never occurred, but that the Muslim aggressors made them inevitable by making it impossible to remove the threat without entering the population center, and by putting the women and children in harm&#039;s way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They were not innocent lambs, and if things had gone differently, history would have had a different outcome, but not a peaceful one.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly.</p>
<p>Just reading a few excerpts from MEMRI, it&#8217;s very clear what would happen if Israel&#8217;s enemies were to defeat the Jewish State: Systematic murder of the men and children, rape of the women to be concubines, pillage and looting of all the riches the Jews have worked to build on this land. There is no doubt in my mind that the Serbs would have met such a fate if they hadn&#8217;t put up a serious fight against their Islamic imperialist attackers.</p>
<p>So many things are forgotten in the fog of war. In the Israeli War of Independence, Deir Yassin is often brought up as the equivalent of Srebrenica. What a lot of people fail to see is that this isn&#8217;t a matter of arguing over what happened, as if this were about Holocaust Denial; it&#8217;s about the theater of war itself. Many Arab villages like Deir Yassin were on critical junction points where Jewish convoys with supplies had to pass, so they had to be cleared for the war to be won; usually the Arab villagers fled, but in those cases that they didn&#8217;t, like Deir Yassin, what happened was what usually happens in a war: Troops had to get inside the population center and, unfortunately, do the fighting in there. The Islamic warfare tactic of the combatants hiding behind the women and children certainly didn&#8217;t help lower the casualty rate. (Jewish Law says the blood is on the hands of the combatants for not putting their own women and children in safety.)</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a great chance that what happened in Srebrenica was similar to Deir Yassin: Not that atrocities never occurred, but that the Muslim aggressors made them inevitable by making it impossible to remove the threat without entering the population center, and by putting the women and children in harm&#8217;s way.</p>
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		<title>By: ziontruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>ziontruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You lost me with your uncritical acceptance of the MSM&#039;s libelous narrative spun around a nation under the attack of Islamic imperialism. Carrying this uncritical attitude onto Israel, one could easily talk about &quot;the genocidal Israeli regime.&quot; And that&#039;s precisely what&#039;s happening thanks to the worldwide Marxist-owned, Islam-sympathizing media&#039;s constant dripping of poison on the Jewish State. That&#039;s the reason why I keep saying the Jewish State must coerce the media outlets to cease and desist from libeling the Jewish State for starters, and then to trumpet the Zionist narrative as atonement for years of waging propaganda war against Israel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You lost me with your uncritical acceptance of the MSM&#8217;s libelous narrative spun around a nation under the attack of Islamic imperialism. Carrying this uncritical attitude onto Israel, one could easily talk about &#8220;the genocidal Israeli regime.&#8221; And that&#8217;s precisely what&#8217;s happening thanks to the worldwide Marxist-owned, Islam-sympathizing media&#8217;s constant dripping of poison on the Jewish State. That&#8217;s the reason why I keep saying the Jewish State must coerce the media outlets to cease and desist from libeling the Jewish State for starters, and then to trumpet the Zionist narrative as atonement for years of waging propaganda war against Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: ziontruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>ziontruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I see no connection between Serbian criminals and the founders of the modern state of Israel.&quot;

I, on the other hand, see a strong connection between the readiness to believe the MSM&#039;s lies about the war of 1992–5 (&quot;Serbian criminals,&quot; you said) and the same about Israel. I commend you for not believing the MSM&#039;s lies about &quot;Israeli criminals,&quot; but you&#039;re the exception on the Left. As for me, I disbelieve &lt;em&gt;everything&lt;/em&gt; the MSM has to say on conflicts where Muslims are a party, so I don&#039;t take their words on Serbia at face value either.

&quot;Why do you insist on linking the authentic and valid nationist aspirations of the Jewish people with those of a third rate Christian thug stuck in the hills of the Balkans such as Milosovic?&quot;

I don&#039;t care about Serb nationalism or any other nationalism than mine. But I insist on seeing the similarities in the enemies faced in both cases—the Islamic imperialist enemy and its sordid tactics, as well as the worldwide media enemy and its presentation of a libelous fiction to the world.

&quot;Is your hatred of Muslims that great?&quot;

I have the measure of them. I know there&#039;s no level they wouldn&#039;t stoop to in warfare, including mixing their combatants with the civilians in order to reap propaganda benefits. The odds are high that the Muslim civilian casualties in the Balkans War of 1992–5 were victims of the combatants&#039; policy of putting them in the line of fire, same as in Afghanistan today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I see no connection between Serbian criminals and the founders of the modern state of Israel.&#8221;</p>
<p>I, on the other hand, see a strong connection between the readiness to believe the MSM&#8217;s lies about the war of 1992–5 (&#8220;Serbian criminals,&#8221; you said) and the same about Israel. I commend you for not believing the MSM&#8217;s lies about &#8220;Israeli criminals,&#8221; but you&#8217;re the exception on the Left. As for me, I disbelieve <em>everything</em> the MSM has to say on conflicts where Muslims are a party, so I don&#8217;t take their words on Serbia at face value either.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why do you insist on linking the authentic and valid nationist aspirations of the Jewish people with those of a third rate Christian thug stuck in the hills of the Balkans such as Milosovic?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care about Serb nationalism or any other nationalism than mine. But I insist on seeing the similarities in the enemies faced in both cases—the Islamic imperialist enemy and its sordid tactics, as well as the worldwide media enemy and its presentation of a libelous fiction to the world.</p>
<p>&#8220;Is your hatred of Muslims that great?&#8221;</p>
<p>I have the measure of them. I know there&#8217;s no level they wouldn&#8217;t stoop to in warfare, including mixing their combatants with the civilians in order to reap propaganda benefits. The odds are high that the Muslim civilian casualties in the Balkans War of 1992–5 were victims of the combatants&#8217; policy of putting them in the line of fire, same as in Afghanistan today.</p>
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		<title>By: Shimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You lost me with your apparent support of the genocidal Serb regime.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You lost me with your apparent support of the genocidal Serb regime.</p>
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		<title>By: Inessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fighting in former Yugoslavia was not so much to do with religion, as much as religion as part of ethnicity. I would compare it to Ireland 30 years ago, where referring to someone as Catholic meant Irish Catholic. If you came from Australia, say, you were defined as Australian, and neither Catholic nor Protestant. I agree with Ziontruth in that there is no way it was unprovoked. If it were purely to do with ethnic cleansing, the only real target would be the centuries old enemy, Croatians. Obviously a terrible atrocity was committed, but it was nothing like the media circus presents. They were not innocent lambs, and if things had gone differently, history would have had a different outcome, but not a peaceful one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fighting in former Yugoslavia was not so much to do with religion, as much as religion as part of ethnicity. I would compare it to Ireland 30 years ago, where referring to someone as Catholic meant Irish Catholic. If you came from Australia, say, you were defined as Australian, and neither Catholic nor Protestant. I agree with Ziontruth in that there is no way it was unprovoked. If it were purely to do with ethnic cleansing, the only real target would be the centuries old enemy, Croatians. Obviously a terrible atrocity was committed, but it was nothing like the media circus presents. They were not innocent lambs, and if things had gone differently, history would have had a different outcome, but not a peaceful one.</p>
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		<title>By: Norman B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norman B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 02:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Milosevic&#039;s Stalinism was illustrated at that time in numerous articles in The New Republic, not exactly a hotbed of right wing extremism, and I was just as outraged by Srebernica as you were. But that was 15 years ago. Serbia is now a democratic country, but you won&#039;t find any Muslim troublemakers infesting Belgrade as they do in Marseille or Malmo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Milosevic&#8217;s Stalinism was illustrated at that time in numerous articles in The New Republic, not exactly a hotbed of right wing extremism, and I was just as outraged by Srebernica as you were. But that was 15 years ago. Serbia is now a democratic country, but you won&#8217;t find any Muslim troublemakers infesting Belgrade as they do in Marseille or Malmo.</p>
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		<title>By: Allah's Porq Sandwich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allah's Porq Sandwich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 23:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Her name is Irma Grese.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her name is Irma Grese.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, let&#039;s try this little game 

&lt;strong&gt;One night, coiled in his saxophone
A viper bit Gilad Atzmon
The snake’s fangs struck his throat exposed 
But –o wonder! – t’was the reptile who died - poisoned&lt;/strong&gt;

Please feel free to make improvements too. In such a way that no one will ever again think of Gilad Atzmon without picturing a snake going for his throat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let&#8217;s try this little game </p>
<p><strong>One night, coiled in his saxophone<br />
A viper bit Gilad Atzmon<br />
The snake’s fangs struck his throat exposed<br />
But –o wonder! – t’was the reptile who died &#8211; poisoned</strong></p>
<p>Please feel free to make improvements too. In such a way that no one will ever again think of Gilad Atzmon without picturing a snake going for his throat.</p>
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		<title>By: brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would love to smash a banana creme pie right in her ugly Jew hating face.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to smash a banana creme pie right in her ugly Jew hating face.</p>
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