Comments on: Native Canadian To Palestinians: Stop Co-opting Our Struggle! http://www.israellycool.com/2013/02/01/native-canadian-to-palestinians-stop-co-opting-our-struggle/ Down Under Punditry in the Middle East Mon, 20 Jul 2015 18:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.2 By: juvanya http://www.israellycool.com/2013/02/01/native-canadian-to-palestinians-stop-co-opting-our-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-303253 Mon, 23 Dec 2013 00:42:13 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=47219#comment-303253 Never saw this reply, but thanks for the clarification. We have the same problem in the States of keeping aboriginal Americans on reservations and not providing any real solution. I think any group that wants it should be given autonomy or free association. The US could still handle defense and foreign affairs, but other than that, aboriginal peoples could run their own lives.

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By: Native Canadian Stands Up For Israel (Again) | Israellycool http://www.israellycool.com/2013/02/01/native-canadian-to-palestinians-stop-co-opting-our-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-301722 Sat, 21 Dec 2013 18:31:31 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=47219#comment-301722 […] Canadian Ryan Bellerose – who we’ve met before – condemns NAISA’s call for the boycott of Israeli academic […]

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By: Ilazarka http://www.israellycool.com/2013/02/01/native-canadian-to-palestinians-stop-co-opting-our-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-241083 Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:03:14 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=47219#comment-241083 TW Bourque

The problem is that all these arab countries don’t let you the choice than fighting ! Israeli are the only one who resist on the arab.
Since the 7th century, each time the arab civilization wanted to conquest a land,they succeeded : Asia, Northern Africa ..and for the first time a people (Jews) resist and they don’t accept it.

You should have a more global representation of the problem.

Many native americans and canadians believe that only europeans become violent when they conquest land, but if you had been conquested by Middle-east, it would have happened the same thing…!

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By: Ryan Bellerose http://www.israellycool.com/2013/02/01/native-canadian-to-palestinians-stop-co-opting-our-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-239446 Fri, 28 Jun 2013 06:40:15 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=47219#comment-239446 Considering you claim to be educated and then make statements that cannot possibly be authenticated as facts, I am somewhat amused by your attack on me here.

Lets examine some of the more ridiculous assertions.

1-what exactly is this “large number” of the jewish community, I saw you post 2 examples, so in your mind is 2 a large number?

2- using the Sun as a medium to further the cause of indigenous rights was actually rather brilliant of me I thought, what better instrument than that of my enemy? but then you in your abject brilliance seem fixated on the method not the message.

3-I am not as young as you seem to think, in my 37 years on this planet I have educated myself quite thoroughly and don’t need you to “explain” anything to me.

4- actually I attended university, but I don’t see that as anything all that special as I have learned far more on my own than in a colonialist robot factory or liberal arts moron factory. I take it you attended one of those such august institutions.

Native woman, just because you have written quite extensively about something, does not make it true, the very fact that you are trying to claim indigenous status for a coloniser/occupier people, shows that you are either stupid, or completely uneducated. I suggest you go brush up on your middle eastern history lessons, and then learn what indigenous means, because conquering the middle east in the 7th century, doesn’t make one indigenous anymore than white people become indigenous to north america.

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By: TW Bourque http://www.israellycool.com/2013/02/01/native-canadian-to-palestinians-stop-co-opting-our-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-238330 Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:13:31 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=47219#comment-238330 Mr. Bellerose

As a member of the Metis Nation I take some exception to your stance as you clearly do not understand the reality of the First Nations relationship with a large number (not all) of the Jewish community.
As you claim to be well read and have thoroughly researched your position perhaps you are willing to go a step further and read up on; Gary McHales relationship with the JDL, Frances Widdowsons relationship with Gary McHale and Izzy Aspers view on us “conquered peoples” (not unlike the Palestinians). The fact that the Sun tabloid chose to publish your article is not alot to be proud of. The Sun also employs the likes of; Michael Coren, Ezra Levant and Brian Lilley who are all shining examples of racists masquerading as free speech advocates. I’d be ashamed to be on the same print as these individuals.
To be clear on this I do not accept violence as and ends to a means and reject the Palestinian approach to resolution, however this does not automatically mean I have to support Israels appraoch to this conflict either. As you grow older you will begin to realize that most of lifes issues/struggles are grey and very few of them are black and white.

In closing I’d like to point out you true colors have shone through with these words;
“the ones who attended some liberals arts school”
As if an education is a bad thing….piteous really. You would likely benefit a great deal from an education as it is quite evident you are lacking in that department.

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By: native woman http://www.israellycool.com/2013/02/01/native-canadian-to-palestinians-stop-co-opting-our-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-238313 Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:40:19 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=47219#comment-238313 A bunch of hogwash. Not only that, he is taking up with Zionist media who oftentimes promote hatred of and racism towards natives in Canada. He is incorrect about his assertions as well that Palestinians are not indigenous to that land. They are. Invading European colonizers are not. I suspect he is a Zionist Christian with an ugly agenda. That scares me. I have written extensively about the Palestinian right to homeland and right of return. I am one Native who is not driven by religious bias in this situation. But he is utterly wrong.

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By: Elena Livertovsky http://www.israellycool.com/2013/02/01/native-canadian-to-palestinians-stop-co-opting-our-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-219586 Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:45:13 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=47219#comment-219586 Dear Mr. Bellrose,
My name is Elena Livertovsky and I am an Event Coordinator at the Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center for Holocaust Studies (FSWC) in Toronto. We would like to invite you to be our keynote speaker for an event. We wanted to inquire what your typical speaking fee, travel fee and related fees are for speaking engagements. If you could please e-mail or call me at your convenience, I would greatly appreciate it.
Elena Livertovsky
Event Coordinator
Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center for Holocaust Studies
902-5075 Yonge St., Toronto, ON, M2N 6C6
T: (416)864 9735 x 29
F: (416)864 1083
Elivertovsky@fswc.ca
Thank you and I look forward to hearing from you.

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By: Elena Livertovsky http://www.israellycool.com/2013/02/01/native-canadian-to-palestinians-stop-co-opting-our-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-219584 Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:44:26 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=47219#comment-219584 Dear Mr. Bellrose,
My name is Elena Livertovsky and I am an Event Coordinator at the Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center for Holocaust Studies (FSWC) in Toronto. We would like to invite you to be our keynote speaker for an event. We wanted to inquire what your typical speaking fee, travel fee and related fees are for speaking engagements. If you could please e-mail or call me at your convenience, I would greatly appreciate it.
Elena Livertovsky
Event Coordinator
Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center for Holocaust Studies
902-5075 Yonge St., Toronto, ON, M2N 6C6
T: (416)864 9735 x 29
F: (416)864 1083

Thank you and I look forward to hearing from you.

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By: Ilazarka http://www.israellycool.com/2013/02/01/native-canadian-to-palestinians-stop-co-opting-our-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-218627 Sun, 24 Feb 2013 08:40:39 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=47219#comment-218627 It’s interesting to read all your comments but I definitively think that the problem is deeper.

The Arab civilization has do to a serious historical commemoration to analyze and recognize that all the conquests she did has destroyed many indigenous cultures especially in Africa..

They also have to beg pardon for the status of dhimmi which was a really apartheid policy.

As long as they don’t do it, they will keep on propaganda and revisionnism and ignorant people will continue to believe them.

I am from Tunisia and I know what I am talking about.

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By: Ted http://www.israellycool.com/2013/02/01/native-canadian-to-palestinians-stop-co-opting-our-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-217377 Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:04:11 +0000 http://www.israellycool.com/?p=47219#comment-217377 Mr. Bellerose,

You have a great grasp of history and reality, and are thus a righteous gentile–one that would have toiled to save lives had you been in WWII Europe.

Some here like ‘slava’ oh so desperately want to paint a picture where the nazi movement of Hajj Amin Al Husseini is every bit as righteous as the Jewish resistance to it, but you wisely have not bit on it one iota.

To the bystander who is not well schooled on the facts, I recommend reading the May 8, 1948 issue of the Nation Associates, which can partly be found online as ‘British Record on Partition’. The ‘palestinian’ movement is a complete fraud and is just a fable of tormented fascists used to demonize and steal land from Jews. Not surprisingly *Israel* is the only state supporting palestinian Arabs, who are treated by Israeli doctors routinely, and are economic beneficiaries of Israel.

Regarding the Native American rejection of the pali-nazi narrative, this is no great surprise given that some native Americans (Cherokee) actually feel a strong kinship to Jews, and the Los Lunas Decalogue Stone confirms that ancient Hebrews mixed in with native Americans and were among the first ones in North America. Not surprisingly, the US State Department scrubs this out of US history of course (and all artifacts with ancient Hebrew script, such as the bat creek stone, are deemed ‘hoaxes’).

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