This pamphlet, put out by the Britain Israel Communications & Research Center (BICOM), does an excellent job to tackle the “disingenuous Israel is an Apartheid state” accusation (hat tip: Natan).
This pamphlet, put out by the Britain Israel Communications & Research Center (BICOM), does an excellent job to tackle the “disingenuous Israel is an Apartheid state” accusation (hat tip: Natan).
These pro-Israel pamphlets on apartheid fall flat to the general public for one simple reason.
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Everyone knows there is no Apartheid within Israel-proper. What the Pro-Palestinians advocates are talking about, is what occurs within the Israeli ruled occupied territories (West Bank, Gaza, Jerusalem).
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Until hasbara can address that in a substantial way, Israel will continue to lose the debate in the public square.
Baloney! And we’ll let the “general public” decide that, not a transparent Israel hater and troll.
What did I tell you about coming on here and trying to spread your propaganda. Do not bother commenting here again.
the amazing thing is that it actually does deal with the territories(from page 37 onward), the thing says that those accusing Israel ignore the lack of a final status agreement(it acknowledges that most of the rural settlements will be part of the new state of Palestine). He ignores the Goldstone quote about the west bank. He ignores that the pamphlet is honest(it does say that their are difficulties)
Well Israel does implement policies that are quite similar to what the South African rulers had implemented. The difference is that South Africa did it for racist reasons; Israel does it for security reasons. There is nothing immoral about restricting to movement of violent persons on YOUR OWN LAND, which is what many of the highways are. Falsestinian supporters act like Falsestinians are supposed to have free reign on the world. No, Israel has every right to impose borders and enforce them. Not that I agree with borders, but the point is that Israel is no different from any other country in the world, and dozens, including many Western countries, are far more ruthless, brutal, and evil than Israel could even dream of being.
These pro-Israel pamphlets on apartheid fall flat to the general public for one simple reason.
.
Everyone knows there is no Apartheid within Israel-proper. What the Pro-Palestinians advocates are talking about, is what occurs within the Israeli ruled occupied territories (West Bank, Gaza, Jerusalem).
.
Until hasbara can address that in a substantial way, Israel will continue to lose the debate in the public square.
Baloney! And we’ll let the “general public” decide that, not a transparent Israel hater and troll.
What did I tell you about coming on here and trying to spread your propaganda. Do not bother commenting here again.
the amazing thing is that it actually does deal with the territories(from page 37 onward), the thing says that those accusing Israel ignore the lack of a final status agreement(it acknowledges that most of the rural settlements will be part of the new state of Palestine). He ignores the Goldstone quote about the west bank. He ignores that the pamphlet is honest(it does say that their are difficulties)
Well Israel does implement policies that are quite similar to what the South African rulers had implemented. The difference is that South Africa did it for racist reasons; Israel does it for security reasons. There is nothing immoral about restricting to movement of violent persons on YOUR OWN LAND, which is what many of the highways are. Falsestinian supporters act like Falsestinians are supposed to have free reign on the world. No, Israel has every right to impose borders and enforce them. Not that I agree with borders, but the point is that Israel is no different from any other country in the world, and dozens, including many Western countries, are far more ruthless, brutal, and evil than Israel could even dream of being.
The main trouble with the Apartheid smear is that it doesn’t need (or use) facts. Anyone who is interested in the facts will see the truth for themselves, though this pamphlet from BICOM is excellent and a wonderful resource.
The smear works purely on an emotional level, and we Israel advocates need to find a similarly emotion-evoking manner to counter the smears. Eylon Aslan Levy in the Times of Israel has an inventive way.
He points out the main problem with this:
We DO need to crawl down to their level if we’re going to counter such vicious smears.
How about using spitballs?
In any discussion with a hater, have a supply of spitballs handy. Every so often, throw one. Try to make it random. After a while the hater is going to get annoyed and (a) complain or (b) attack physically.
In either case (all right, in case b, after fending off the attack), smile sweetly and say “If you can’t stand harmless little spitballs for less than an hour, how do you expect Israelis to put up with murderous bombs for years?”
The main trouble with the Apartheid smear is that it doesn’t need (or use) facts. Anyone who is interested in the facts will see the truth for themselves, though this pamphlet from BICOM is excellent and a wonderful resource.
The smear works purely on an emotional level, and we Israel advocates need to find a similarly emotion-evoking manner to counter the smears. Eylon Aslan Levy in the Times of Israel has an inventive way.
He points out the main problem with this:
We DO need to crawl down to their level if we’re going to counter such vicious smears.
How about using spitballs?
In any discussion with a hater, have a supply of spitballs handy. Every so often, throw one. Try to make it random. After a while the hater is going to get annoyed and (a) complain or (b) attack physically.
In either case (all right, in case b, after fending off the attack), smile sweetly and say “If you can’t stand harmless little spitballs for less than an hour, how do you expect Israelis to put up with murderous bombs for years?”
Here’s how a “hater” will handle the facts. “Fact fact fact fact fact”… but you’re still an apartheid state! “More fact fact fact fact…” but you’re still an apartheid state. I don’t think the people who shriek Apartheid even believe it themselves, but it works for them, so they won’t ever give it up.
Here’s how a “hater” will handle the facts. “Fact fact fact fact fact”… but you’re still an apartheid state! “More fact fact fact fact…” but you’re still an apartheid state. I don’t think the people who shriek Apartheid even believe it themselves, but it works for them, so they won’t ever give it up.
All of this boycotting business painfully reminds me of the boycott of Jewish stores in Germany shortly before the holocaust… 🙁
All of this boycotting business painfully reminds me of the boycott of Jewish stores in Germany shortly before the holocaust… 🙁