Epic Fail: Avatard Facebook Group
You may recall last week’s Avatards, palestinan protesters who painted themselves blue and posed as characters from the hit film Avatar to equate their struggle to the one portrayed in the film.
Well, someone opened a Facebook group dedicated to these Avatards (hat tip: Michael).
Problem is, whoever launched the group gave it this description:
Palestinian Avatars: Avatar Metaphor for Palestine? :
“…This is about suicide bombers …That is why the wall went up.
Israel is rerouting some of the wall, which will return half of the Palestinian territory lost when the wall went up, but that is not good enough for the villagers on the other side. Perhaps they should trying stoning any Palestinian family thinking about belting up. Without suicide bombers, the wall would not have been necessary“
Not surprisingly, members of the group did not like what seems to be an admission that the security barrier went up to help prevent suicide bombings, and that Israel has been trying to make life easier for the palestinians affected!
But not to worry. They have since rewritten the group description.
Kind of like how the palestinians have rewritten history.
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[...] 11:02PM: Palestinians launch an Avatards Facebook group. Hilarity ensues. [...]
israellycool, get a history book, become educated and then post this nonsense
Got history books, have read them, am educated. Which history books have YOU read?
Why dont you get a history book and show us where the Republic of Palestine or the Kingdom of Palestine is? Or show us some pictures of the vast Palestinian country that you think existed in 1900?
Did all those palestinians that live there today arrive on boats too, were they from europe, since no one was living in an empty desert? This cuts both ways.
Oh ya I forgot, they are all from jordan etc, just like the most isrealis are askinazi.
Were is the republic of isreal in 1900's? On the maps ive seen its says palestine, not isreal, wether an empty desert or not. for if palestinians werent there, than surely isrealis werent either.
Who said no one was living there? We are saying that there was no Palestine thought of as a national entity until the 1960s at the earliest. There were Arabs there, just as there were Jews, Christians, Africans, and other groups that somehow wandered in. What there wasnt was any country or entity caled Palestine or much development. Virtually everyone lived there as nomads or farmers, often feudal farmers (to powerful Arabs and Turks).
As more Jews started returning and developing the land more, Arabs from Egypt, Syria, Jordan, an Lebanon came to get jobs, increasing the population of Arabs substantially.
There may not have been a Republic of Israel in 1900, but from 1200 or 1000 to 0 BCE, with a few hundred years of foreign rule, there was a Kingdom of Israel in many forms. and the Jews have always wanted to restore it.
Palestine was just a name applied to the land by the Romans. It was never incorporated into anything, especially not Arab or Muslim. Each successive invader after the Romans just made it a province or made it part of other provinces. There never was any entity called Palestine. It is just a general name for a region like Appalachia or Siberia or Iberia. Even if the land were completely empty for 2000 years, from Roman time to now, it would still be called Palestine because the name has nothing to do with who lives there.
In fact, until 1948, the Jews were called Palestinians, among other things. Arabs always considered themselves Arabs or members of the local tribe. There was the intermediate period when no one was a Palestinian and then the Arabs took the name up in the 1960s, knowing they could exploit vague historical knowledge and pretend they always had this country that Israel stole. Conveniently for them, Palestine is inscribed on almost every map since the Roman Empire.
Actually, the majority of Israelis are Mizrahi and Sephardi Jews, AKA the Jews who have been living in the Middle East for several hundred to thousands of years.
Trust me, I wrote a research paper on the demographic tensions in Israel and I got lambasted pretty hard for writing that Askenazim make up the majority of Jews in Israel.
Israel is a 70% Arab state, the largest Arab state with no membership in the Arab League.
I'm sorry? You want to re-educate him and then he will post nonsense? I wouldn't wonder.
|Dave, onsori is a waste of time.It's clear that he's ignorant of the history of our land.
"Those who fail their history exams are condemned to repeat them."-Carlos Santana
Nice one!
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your so mad of this groub because you know, every thing that the palestinian do is right and its their land.
Thanks for making me smile! Your future just might be in comedy.
pathetic. The only ones who've been trying to rewrite history and extriminate Palestine and the Palestinians are the Israelis. There are no bigger liars than Israeli historians.
Too bad you failed at rewriting history, now everybody knows about Palestine.
3 Cheers from Sweden.
pathetic. The only ones who've been trying to rewrite history and extriminate Finland and the Finnish are the Swedes. There are no bigger liars than Swedish historians.
Too bad you failed at rewriting history, now everybody knows about Finland.
3 Cheers from the Real World.
Don't forget the anti-Jewish pogroms by Swedish soliders in Poland (1600's).
So you would agree that what the swedes did to rewrite finish history in finland is wrong. so why would it be right for the isrealis to do that to the palestinians.
Or to flip the scrip, would it be ok for palestinian to rewrite history and ignore and misrepresent isreali history? I think this would be wrong, dont you think?
I think we all live in a real world.
I was actually trying to make a point that rewriting history is bad but that both sides are guilty of it. So its a fairly moot point by trying to portray Israelis as evil hijackers of history.
"and that Israel has been trying to make life easier for the palestinians affected!"
Uuuhhhhhh, you DO know that the change in the barrier is starting only now, TWO YEARS after Bagatz ruled that it's route should change?
So you also think that our Supreme Court is an anti-democratic, unelected out-of-control ogliarchy? I mean, you did differentiate between the BaGaTz and "Israel"?
And to think it was Meanchem Begin who gave them all of this extra jusrisdiction, because he trusted Barak. Perhaps absolute power does corrupt absolutely.
Note to those in the U.S.: Our Supreme Court makes the one in the U.S. look conservative. It doesn't require standing, it takes a hundred times as many cases, and it is NOT chosen by elected officials. Basically, it is a secular Chief Rabbinate, only the Rabbinate is term-limited, much less powerful, and actually has to look at precedent. They even had a retirement age before the BaGaTz did (and there are numerous cases of American Supreme Court judges serving while literally senile, so this is again backwards).
No. Now you're putting words in my mouth (or keyboard…). The bodies that actually "do" something, i.e. the government, or in this case the army (forgot what it's called. The "doing" body), as opposed to the judicial body, don't put the comfort of the Palestinians as a priority (to put it mildly).
Not that I agree, but if an entity refers to you as "the enemy", do you want them to be comfortable?
would you be ok if the palestians were doing that to your populations? ofcourse not. If the wall was built for protection from suicide bombers, is it ok to return that land when the trouble ends? Or compensate the families that were displaced? surely they arent terrorist too.
Andres, that's the point. Israel IS in the midst of moving the wall after protests in order to accommodate innocent Palestinian Arab families so their farm land is reconnected. There are some pretty terrible things Israel has done but this is the difference between Israel and the terrorists subjugating their own people in the West Bank and Gaza in that change can and will come for Israel. However, the wall should not come down because it is only a wall in places where snipers were shooting from in towns. The rest of it is literally barbed wire in order to make sure no suicide bombers are coming through on back routes. And your argument that the trouble has ended is too simplistic. So because the wall has reduced suicide bombing attacks to a mere percentage of what they used to be, it should be torn down? That is silly.
Such misguided fools that linger about the internet. Viva Palistia and the rest of the "pro-palistinians", please read something outside of the Q'ran for a change. In fact, unless I stand corrected, the Q'ran doesn't even mention word of there being a "Palestine".
Just seems like the world has never learned its lesson…We Jews will never disappear, no matter how hard you might try.
nobody wants the jews to disappear. its that nobody want the palestinians to disappear either. I dont read the Koran or any other religious books. thank god(no pun intended). blanket statements about people is alittle too prejudice for me. Isreal is the 4th strongest army in the world with 200 nukes. What are you soo afraid of? those weak arab nations that bow to the US? please dont cry wolf. What most people want is a two state solution or full citizenship for people under occupation. 60 years is enough
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