Today’s Events From Israel: Thurs 6th March
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Again, I am having trouble with the “live” part of liveblogging, so I will provide the next best thing: a summary of events so far today, and possibly more frequent updates.
- An IDF soldier was killed this morning and another was critically injured as palestinians detonated an explosive device near an IDF Sufa jeep patrolling the area near the Gaza Strip border, not far from the Kissufim crossing. When other army vehicles, as well as an army helicopter arrived to rescue the wounded, they also came under fire. Hamas and the Islamic Jihad both claimed responsibility for the attack, with the latter even distributing candy.
- The missiles have continued, with palestinians so far firing 6 Qassams (including one that scored a direct hit on a house in Sderot, sending 4 people in to shock) and 4 mortar shells.
- The British, apparently unconcerned with the creeping Sharia in their own country, continue to focus on Israel and level harsh criticism at us. This time, a coalition of eight British-based human rights organizations released a scathing report claiming that the humanitarian situation in the Gaza Strip is at its worst point since Israel captured the territory in 1967.
- Egypt are pushing Hamas and Islamic Jihad for a truce with Israel. Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has already indicated he would be party to such truce, just to prove beyond all doubt that he has not learned anything from last year’s Lebanon War.
Updates (Israel time):
4:45PM: Photographic proof of candy time, courtesy of Reuters:
4:50PM: Honest Reporting has analyzed 124 photographs of Israelis and palestinians, which were promoted by Reuters as the “Best of the Month”, and found that - shock, horror - Reuters are biased.
8:10PM: Since my last update, a Qassam struck a home in Sderot, lightly to moderately wounding a man and lightly hurting three others. A second rocket fired in the same barrage struck a cooking gas tank next to an empty home, starting a fire.
8:26PM: 2 Arab adults and a minor have been indicted for alleged involvement in this near-lynching against two Jerusalem Municipality workers.
9:20PM: Breaking news: terrorists have infiltrated the Merkaz Harav yeshiva (seminary) in Jerusalem and opened fire. 4 students are reportedly dead.
9:23PM: Channel 2 reports that about 40 people have been wounded in the attack.
9:27PM: Ynet reports:
Two terrorists infiltrated a rabbinical seminary at the entrance of Jerusalem and opened fire after nightfall Thursday, police said. At least four people have been reported killed, the ZAKA emergency response service said.
Ambulances raced to the scene from around the city and paramedics confirmed that several more people have been wounded.
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Jerusalem police spokesman Shmuel Ben Ruby said the slain gunman had an explosive belt on his body. ”One or two terrorists infiltrated the Mercaz Harav seminary and opened fire in all directions. One terrorist was killed in an exchange of fire, and apparently he had an explosives belt.” He said students were being evacuated from the building
Reports indicate police are currently in pursuit of the second terrorist.
9:28PM: Infolive.tv is reporting 6 Israelis dead, and one of the terrorists.
9:30PM: At least 7 dead.
9:32PM: Gaza residents are reportedly celebrating the murders.
9:33PM: JPost reports 6 Israelis, and 2 terrorists dead, with a 3rd terrorist on the run.
9:35PM: Unconfirmed reports indicate the terrorists may have been dressed as seminary students.
9:40PM: Shy Guy comments:
My 11 year old son just said to me “Abba (Daddy), if terrorists can attack in Kiryat Moshe (the Jerusalem neighborhood where tonight’s attack occurred), what stops them from attacking our home?”
We’re near enough to hear the sounds of the not-too distant emergency vehicle sirens.
9:45PM: The gunmen reportedly entered a dining hall where about 80 people were gathered, witnesses said, and opened fire.
9:50PM: Yeshivat Mercaz HaRav is identified with the so-called “settler” movement. From an associated website:
Mercaz HaRav Kook Yeshiva was founded in 5684 (1924), in Jerusalem by the first Chief Rabbi of Eretz Yisrael, HaRav Avraham Yitzchak HaCohen Kook, of blessed memory.
HaRav Kook saw in the establishment of the Yeshiva - the culmination of his spiritual vision of the holy renascence of the People of Israel in their Land. The Yeshiva was founded to be a Center for Torah, whose purpose would be to raise up and educate scholars and leaders in Israel, filled with a deep love for their fellow-Jew, and imbued with the love of the Torah and the love of the Land of Israel.
It was an Israeli Yeshiva whose studies were conducted in Hebrew.
Today Mercaz HaRav Yeshiva is the focal point of a young generation aspiring to walk in the Way of G-d and His Torah, and drawn to the vision of HaRav Kook. Since its foundation, the Yeshiva and all that it stands for, has grown in influence until the name Mercaz HaRav has come to denote not only a Yeshiva, but a Torah concept which is the heart of a movement. This movement encompasses thousands of pupils and students in high school Yeshivas and Yeshivot Hesder, pupils and students in the Ulpanot and Michlalot (girl’s Torah high schools and colleges), and members from all walks of the Hityashvut (Settlement) movement.
It is a place where young Jewish men go to learn Torah and how to become better people (the two go hand-in-hand). I have personally visited Mercaz Harav in my yeshiva/seminary days. We are talking about quality people here.
9:52PM: Soccer Dad informs me his nephew learns at Mercaz Harav.
9:55PM: Officials have confirmed 6 Israelis dead.
10:00PM: Arutz Sheva reports that 6 students were wounded in the attack( 2 seriously, and 2 moderately), even though initial reports suggested dozens were wounded, since many who appeared wounded did not require medical care.
10:05PM: Abu Abir, a spokesman for the Popular Resistance Committees:
“The only way that Israelis will have security is to get up and leave Palestine. All Palestinians will chase after every last one; we won’t leave them space to bury their dead. This is the first of many acts that the Palestinian resistance promised and started to carry out.”
I have an idea: let’s negotiate!
10:10PM: The terrorists were reportedly not wearing suicide-bomb belts as earlier reported.
10:13PM: Channel 10 reports that there were several terror attack warnings before tonight’s shooting attack.
10:17PM: Here are some photos of some of the young men hurt.
10:20PM: Yosef comments:
I am downtown in Jerusalem right now, and I kept hearing sirens and helicopters for a long time. I used to live in Kiryat Moshe and used to daven sometimes at Mercaz HaRav. They had one of the most beautiful kabbalat Shabbats… I used to take guests there to experience it. My wife would always pray there on Yom Kippur. The most special people there- I’m feeling sick right now.
10:22PM: A palestinian source has told Ynet that the Al Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades (belonging to Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah) carried out the attack.
10:25PM: Hezbollah TV is claiming it was the “Mughniyah Brigades” of an Israeli Arab group.
10:27PM: The JPost quotes witnesses that only one terrorist had entered the building and that he managed to fire 500-600 bullets over the course of 10 minutes before he was killed.
10:28PM: At least 7 students killed and 9 wounded.
10:30PM: Ha’aretz has more:
At least one terrorist infiltrated the yeshiva, possibly armed with an explosive belt, and began firing in every direction.
Yitzhak Danon, a student at the yeshiva, told Channel 2 television that one terrorist entered the seminary’s library, and fired for several minutes at students with a Kalashnikov assault rifle.
Danon said he shot the terrorist twice in the head.
Michael, another student who only gave his first name, said he saw a terrorist enter the complex, and fire for some 10 minutes. “He fired 500-600 bullets,” he said, adding that most of those hurt were high school age.
Witnesses said about 80 people were gathered in the library.
10:32PM: Mahmoud Abbas has reportedly condemned the attack. I haven’t seen exactly what he said, but I’m sure it is not an unequivocal condemnation and blames Israel for the attack.
10:36PM: Hamas has blessed the attack.
10:37PM: I just saw on Channel 2 that the terrorist held a blue identity card. In other words, he was an Israeli (Arab) citizen. Which could lend credence to the Hezbollah TV claim above (10:25PM update).
10:45PM: The terrorist was a resident of East Jerusalem.
10:46PM: Infolive.tv reports that police and security forces are inspecting cars at checkpoints set up around Jerusalem searching for those who assisted the terrorists to enter the capital.
10:47PM: As I called above (10:32PM update), the Abbas condemnation is not unequivocal:
“President Mahmoud Abbas condemns the attack in Jerusalem that claimed the lives of many Israelis and he reiterated his condemnation of all attacks that target civilians, whether they are Palestinians or Israelis,” said Abbas aide Saeb Erekat.
10:52PM: These are the “civilians” with which you are sympathizing, world.
In Jebaliya, about 7,000 Gazans of different factions marched in the streets, firing in the air in celebration, and visited homes of those killed and wounded in Israel’s ground operation this week.
In Rafah on the Egyptian border, residents distributed sweets to moving cars, and militants fired mortars in celebration.
10:54PM: Elder has more on the celebrations.
10:55PM: A Rabbi from the Yeshiva just told the Channel 2 reporter that today being the first day of the new Jewish month of Adar Bet, there was much joy in the yeshiva before the attack.
10:57PM: I wish I had seen this:
The part-time yeshiva student who killed the terrorist, 40-year-old Yitzchak Dadon, said that he shot the attacker in the head with his personal weapon. David Shapira, a yeshiva student and officer in the paratroopers, heard the shots from his nearby home, ran to the yeshiva and “finished him off.”
Asked by a Channel 2 TV reporter what weapon the Palestinian Authority terrorist had, Dadon said, “A Kalachnikov,” and turning to the camera, he angrily added, “The Kalachnikov that you gave him, President Peres…”
11:00PM: It is still not clear whether the terrorist’s blue identity card was authentic or not. So it is not certain he was an Arab Israeli citizen.
11:02PM: Now I am hearing 8 dead + the terrorist.
11:04PM: Here is a BBC report of the attack:
11:08PM: Internal Security Minister Avi Dichter has discussed the proper responses to the attack with Defense Minister Ehud Barak and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.Actually, I shouldn’t say “proper”, since no doubt our response will be weak (as usual).
11:17PM: The anchor on Channel 2 just said that politics does not come into it (the yeshiva is affiliated with the religious Zionist movement); this was a case of young people being gunned down while studying.
11:20PM: Unbelievable headline: Two Palestinians killed in west Jerusalem attack: TV
(via LGF)
11:25PM: The insanity continues: Arabs have attacked Israeli drivers near the town of Ofra, lightly wounding a man.
I am so frustrated….
11:28PM: The palestinian Ma’an news agency have not yet reported the attack. Nor has Wafa.
11:34PM: The terrorist’s blue identity card suggests he was a resident of Jabel Mukaber in east Jerusalem. But as I reported before, it is not yet certain it was authentic.
11:40PM: The Jawa Report posts proof the BBC called the attack an “accident.”
11:52PM: US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has called the attack an ”act of terror and depravity.” I wonder if she also asked us to exercise restraint.
11:54PM: Check out the infuriating bias from this BBC interviewer, who seems to be blaming Israel for the attack.
12:00AM: The media is reporting that security officials are saying the terrorist was an east Jerusalem resident.
12:10PM: Here are some Reuters pictures of the celebrating palestinians.
Besides the obvious depravity of the celebrations, notice how the man in the first photo is firing his gun while holding a child.
12:17AM: I cannot even imagine..
Ariel, a student at the yeshiva, described the events. “I at first thought it was the sound of Purim firecrackers,” he said. “We ran to one of the rooms, because we couldn’t reach the exit. We brought some 20 guys into one of the study rooms, and blocked the door with two tables.”
“We heard the sound of nonstop gunfire and guys’ screaming,” he continued. “We were afraid the terrorist would come into the room.”
“The fear was terrible,” said Ariel. “We heard an exchange of fire, and the guy [who killed the terrorist] came and confirmed the area was clear. We understood we could leave. The scene was difficult.”
12:22AM: I’m guessing a donation to MDA or ZAKA wouldn’t hurt about now.
12:26AM: Commenter Michael P:
On the Washington Post website they have a video from MSNBC. The broadcaster first calls them “infiltrators”, then “terrorists”, then “so-called terrorists”.
Not only that, but the reporter mispronounces almost everything.
12:40AM: F**** Ban Ki-moon:
UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon condemned the “savage attack on a Jewish seminary in west Jerusalem and the deliberate killing and injuring of civilians” in a statement he released.
Ban also expressed concern for “the potential for continued acts of violence and terrorism to undermine the political process.”
That’s almost as good as a Mahmoud Abbas non-condemnation.
12:56AM: The UN Security Council is set to convene in a bid to condemn the terrorist attack.
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March 6th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
I fisked the UK “human rights” report here:
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2008/03/fisking-human-rights-organizations.html
They even blame Israel for falling math grades in Gaza schools.
March 6th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
“claiming that the humanitarian situation in the Gaza Strip is at its worst point since Israel captured the territory in 1967.”
No, that’s true.
The situation in Gaza was best under Israli control, worst under Egyptian and Hamas control.
March 6th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Hey, don’t blame “the British” for biassed reports. We are not a monolithic whole. Human Rights groups tend to be well filled with Muslims.
But it is quite possible that conditions in Gaza have got much worse since Hamas took over. Whose fault would that be? And whose fault is it that conditions in nearby parts of Egypt are worse?
March 6th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
My 11 year old son just said to me “Abba (Daddy), if terrorists can attack in Kiryat Moshe (the Jerusalem neighborhood where tonight’s attack occurred), what stops them from attacking our home?”
We’re near enough to hear the sounds of the not-too distant emergency vehicle sirens.
March 6th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Are you in Jerusalem? any reports? my son, d.i.l. and grand daughter live in neve daneal.
time to kick the prime minster of chelm out of office.
March 6th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
The PM, the FM, the DM, the JM, every F’n em’s gotta go.
March 6th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Thanks for the live-blogging. My heart is breaking over this. Shy Guy, you take care of yourself, hear?
March 6th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
I really wish “Human rights” groups, et al, would get over their soppy love affair with the Palestinian Uber-victims!
March 6th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
CNN states that in Gaza they are celebrating.
March 6th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
I am downtown in Jerusalem right now, and I kept hearing sirens and helicopters for a long time. I used to live in Kiryat Moshe and used to daven sometimes at Mercaz HaRav. They had one of the most beautiful kabbalat Shabbats… I used to take guests there to experience it. My wife would always pray there on Yom Kippur. The most special people there- I’m feeling sick right now.
March 6th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
And they wonder why the world looks at them as animals.
As I have noted, ‘There is no such thing as a ‘disproportionate response’ to calls for genocide. All conflicts end with ‘disproportionate response…’
When the cost of slaughtering Jews as ‘business as usual’ becomes to high for the Palestinians to bear, they will respond appropriately.’
March 6th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
My son goes to Machon Lev’s high school but spent an entire weekend in Mercaz Harav a month ago. Many of his friends go there, and he made friends with the rest of them. His yeshiva is under armed guard lockdown right now.
Anyone who knows anything knows that Mercaz people are sweet and intelligent. Of course, the Palestinian and sympathetic media are reporting this as an attack on settlers.
Yehuda
March 6th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
I’m tired of people saying things like “The people of Gaza are being held hostage to their leaders’ fantasies”. This presents a false picture, as if the people in the streets of Gaza were cute and cuddly, only driven to the wrong direction by a few hotheads. No! They all share in the vision of wiping out the Jewish State. They’re all, to quote a book title, “willing executioners”. We won’t win until our military begins acting upon this truth. We need to give the Arabs of Eretz Yisrael the opportunity to resettle in any one of 22 already existing Arab states of their choice.
March 6th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
I saw on Haaretz’s news ticker that the Foreign Ministry is already declaring that “Peace talks with PA to continue despite terror attack”. What is wrong with these people? The blood of their citizens isn’t even cleaned from the ground! Disgusting!
March 6th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
I blogged about the latest Gaza celebrations of death here:
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2008/03/mass-celebrations-in-gaza-just-what-you.html
I would post it here but your liveblogging is too important.
March 6th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
“Yitzhak Danon, a student at the yeshiva, told Channel 2 television that one terrorist entered the seminary’s library, and fired for several minutes at students with a Kalashnikov assault rifle.
Danon said he shot the terrorist twice in the head.”
so i guess all the anti-gun politicians over here in the states are wrong when they say that armed bystanders would only further the problem in a mass shooting… good show Mr. Danon, your actions may have saved dozens of lives!!!
March 7th, 2008 at 12:04 am
i read a comment in defense of the palestinian candy celebrations on elder of ziyon’s blog earlier today, I wonder how much that commenting guy can defend the candy giving as reported on msn.com after today’s seminary in cold blood massacre, no matter what the circumstance, Israelis do not celebrate the death of any palestinian
March 7th, 2008 at 12:10 am
Dave, I just had a thought. More people showed up to celebrate this multiple-terror-homicide (7,000) than showed up to protest the Israeli ‘closure’(<5,000)! And there was so much press on that ‘demonstration’ previously! Just goes to show a) where their priorities are, and b) how horrible the Israeli closure must be.
Thanks for the liveblogging. It really helps us foreigners.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:15 am
What did you guys expect? you have destroyed the Palestinian life forever and expect them to sit on their ass and watch you humiliate them in every checkpoint? Yo u have not understood the strength of human kind. This is just the beginning! Sit back and relax. No don’t sit back, force your politicians to negotiate with Hamas. Peace!
March 7th, 2008 at 12:19 am
correction: candy celebrations reported by jpost.com;palestinian rifle firing celebrations reported by foxnews.com and msnbc.com after massacre
March 7th, 2008 at 12:47 am
Just saw Dan Gillerman on al beeb. As good as ever! Hopefully a video will come up soon.
They’re not reporting half the information you have given us with you liveblog Dave. Thanks a lot for that
March 7th, 2008 at 12:47 am
Actually, Little Green, I expect that the negotiations will go on and produce nothing right up until the moment that Israel gets, finally, serious and starts killing this scum wholesale.
The Palestinians only hope is that Israel goes more and more weak and vacillating and lacks the guts to gut Gaza once and for all.
March 7th, 2008 at 12:51 am
My son is in yeshiva in Jerusalem. Thank Gd, it was he who called to tell me what happened. If I had heard the news from anyone else, I would have thought… the unthinkable, Gd forbid.
My heart and my prayers are with all the parents and families, wherever they are. Gd give them strength.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:10 am
it’s a pain that terrorist trash wasn’t humiliated in a checkpoint, the same peace for you bastard
March 7th, 2008 at 1:21 am
On the Washington Post website they have a video from MSNBC. The broadcaster first calls them “infiltrators”, then “terrorists”, then “so-called terrorists”.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:22 am
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March 7th, 2008 at 1:36 am
Terrorist Attack on Jerusalem School-Student Kills…
The basics are that so far, at least 8 Israeli Students at Mercaz Harav yeshiva were killed when two or possibly 3 terrorists dressed in jeans walked into the dining hall of the religious school and fired 300 to 500 rounds from an AK-47. Dozens have …..
March 7th, 2008 at 1:49 am
Do you soft-brained folk think this might have been in response to the 120+ Palestinians - including 22 children - the IDF killed in Gaza last week?
Or no?
March 7th, 2008 at 1:51 am
Peter D,
Get a clue.
March 7th, 2008 at 1:52 am
Peter D - Someone else who can’t tell the difference between human shields getting killed while protecting enemy combatants, and a terrorist attack targeting civilians.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:08 am
[...] tip: Israellycool, and Jawa [...]
March 7th, 2008 at 2:14 am
Palestinians Terrorists Murder At Least Seven At Y…
The terrorists entered a dining hall where about 80 people were gathered, witnesses said, and opened fire. “There are at least seven killed,” said Eli Dein, director of Israel’s rescue service. I fully expect there to be celebrating by Palestinians …
March 7th, 2008 at 2:18 am
Yeah, I got a celebratory asshat from Denmark in the comments on my blog. But I don’t publish those.
An EFP on the Israeli side of the border, more kassams, and a terrorist attack. And Condi wants Israel to talk truce. Because gee, it’s so effing obvious that the terrorists want a truce.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:35 am
Over 270 Palestinians killed by the IDF since Annapolis, and say 13 Israelis killed by Palestinians in the same period.
Who are the terrorists again?
You bombed their powerstation, starve them of food and other essential supplies including medical equipment - that’s what is called COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT, if you didn’t know - and you get all indignant when one of them cracks.
How about YOU get a clue Aussie Dave.
March 7th, 2008 at 2:44 am
The US and UN have condemned the act. Doesn’t that make everything all better? So what more do you want?
March 7th, 2008 at 2:52 am
As I’ve said on other forums; It’s not who got to some piece of dirt first. Nor is it about who did what to whom first, last or in-between. Now it’s about “Can you hold onto what you’ve got”. Survival of the fittest.
S. America is about to blow up; the Middle East, Africa, etc. are well down the road, and the US, China, Russia, India, Pakistan, et al will be nukeing each other within 5 years. Smoke’em if you got ‘em.
The most committed wins.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:26 am
Peter:
Seriously, fuck you, you ugly little piece of shit. Go fuck yourself. You are a sniveling, worthless, sanctimonious worthless sack of shit. You are not a weasel but the shit from a weasel’s ass. You fucking loser. FUCK OFF.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:44 am
TO THE PRO ARAB MOMZERS THE DAY OF FREELY MURDERING JEWS IS OVER HITLER ROSE HITLER FELL ANTI SEMITES LIKE HAMAS SHOULD BE SENT TO HELL.
OLMERT GAY AVECK MIT DIEN CHUMAS ALTAZIMIN. GO BACK TO CHELM WHERE YOU CAN BE DOG CATCHER.
we are not only fighting hostile armies, but a hostile people, and must make old and young, rich and poor, feel the hard hand of war, as well as their organized armies. I know that this recent movement of mine through G(AZA)eorgia has had a wonderful effect in this respect. Thousands who had been deceived by their lying newspapers to believe that we were being whipped all the time now realize the truth, and have no appetite for a repetition of the same experience…
GENERAL WILLIAM SHERMAN
March 7th, 2008 at 3:47 am
PETER go do a pali zeib kos om insallah
March 7th, 2008 at 4:03 am
Peter D,
You support terrorists. Anyone who supports terrorists is evil.
Thank you Aussie Dave
shalom
March 7th, 2008 at 4:25 am
I support freedom and democracy for all, not just some.
March 7th, 2008 at 4:57 am
The Palestinians celebrating this hate-motivated mass murder of innocent civilians are nothing but garbage wrapped in skin.
How depraved does your society have to be to condone celebration, dancing and handing out candies at the sight of slaughtered civilians?
P.S.: Peter D, exactly how much electricity and humanitarian aid to you think the Israelis should give to people hellbent on slaughtering them? Your lopsided casualty count demonstrates nothing but your ability to take it out of context. It sure isn’t Israel’s fault the Palestinians keep picking fights they can’t win.
March 7th, 2008 at 5:00 am
Peter D,
“when one of them cracks.”
I’m not jewish, but I am not so blind that I cannot see that there is a systematic attempt, day after day after day, by arabs to murder jews. The mere fact that more are not dead is because the IDF is there to protect them. For every successful act there are hundred of failed terror acts or rockets that don’t reach their destination. It is not that a single person “cracks”, it is premeditated murder.
You are an idiot. You, like millions of Palestinian terrorist supporters, are morally blind and, in fact, you don’t even care about palestinians (or would care when they kill themselves and would not defend a regime like Hamas, who spends palestinian money in rockets). You care only about your ego, because you want to “feel good”.
Fuck you. Perhaps you’ll end having the same end as Angelo Frammartino (check Google).
March 7th, 2008 at 5:06 am
Peter D Says:
March 7th, 2008 at 4:25 am
“I support freedom and democracy for all, not just some.”
No, Pete, you blindly support a bunch of murdering thugs who could have their own nation and live in peace with Israel RIGHT NOW, except that they would rather “kill the dirty Jews” and “drive them into the sea.” For example, when Israel left Gaza, what did the Palestinians do? Try to build something worthwhile, or loot, murder each other, and try to kill more Jews? When the Palestinians were offered their own state on the minor condition that they quit trying to kill Jews and annihilate Israel, did they accept or consider those conditions to be too much of a burden?
The Palestinians have brought all of their pain upon themselves with their hatred, igorance, stupidity, and adherence to the worst parts of Islam. They are tools of the Arab and Jihadist states in the Middle East, and they are used by their “friends” for the sole purpose of inflicting pain on Israel. But they are too damn stupid to see it, as are you.
As far as collective punishment goes, when the populace supports the actions of terrorists INTENTIONALLY killing unarmed kids in a school, THEY DESERVE COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT. And when some asshat cannot see the difference between that and those same terrorists using THEIR OWN KIDS as human shields for protection, then that asshat’s opinion is less than worthless.
Your moral equivalence is the sign of a weak, soulless, ignorant existence. You are truly a pathetic piece of shit. My bet is that you are a typical left-leaning, multiculturalist, self-righteous idiot with little understanding of the actual history of the region and the Israeli/Palestinian/Arab/Jihadist conflict. All you know is that spouting “freedom and democracy for all” lets you feel morally superior, but the reality is that you just don’t have a freaking clue. Your “morality” is little more than self-serving ego building. Same goes for that “Little Green” moron above.
In closing, please do the planet a favor and FOAD.
March 7th, 2008 at 5:07 am
To Peter D,
You quote the statistica comparing the numbers of Palestinians killed vs Israelis killed. Have you any idea how many Palestinians have been killed by other Palestinians durign the same time period? More than were killed by the IDF.
Think about it. Evil is as evil does.
March 7th, 2008 at 5:14 am
BTW, applogies for some of my language in my post above. Try not to use such anymore in posts on blogs, but that language was they only thing that could come remotely close to expressing my anger and utter contempt for idiots such as Pete D and Little Green.
March 7th, 2008 at 5:15 am
Peter D,
really “smart” comparisons!
By the same reasoning you will see that much more criminals are shot by police than the other way round! That clearly shows that the police is the evil force - right?
Also, the numbers are wrong!
March 7th, 2008 at 5:26 am
I apologize for my profane rant as well, especially considering this is my first post. I love this site. Aussie Dave is a great writer with a great BS detector. This is always a stop for REAL information about Israel and the hell she goes through trying to survive as a democratic, free, liberal society in a field of madness.
My rant came out because I have reached the end of my rope with worthless cretins like Peter D. I cannot stand them ever let alone at a time like this. Whatever your position on the issues of the ME are, this is NOT the time to posture like some multi-culti, pseudo-progressive.
If I were near Peter D I would seriously call him out NOW.
March 7th, 2008 at 5:59 am
Really brave.
Control the borders so that a people can’t equip themselves like a real army does. Continue to drive them off their land, assault them indiscriminately…and then call them cowards and terrorists when they use what little means are left available to them to retaliate against the relentless homicidal drive to relieve them of the burden of being able to claim ownership of the land upon which they stand.
You all always keep saying how the Palestinians refused to live peacefully beside the Israelis, and that’s why things have come to this. But that’s a lie. Racist Jewish settlers have never accepted the idea of living beside Palestinians. Racist Jewish settlers think ALL of Palestine is rightfully theirs - that is one of the things which is taught in Rabbi Kook’s yeshiva. Rabbi Kook, son of the founder of the powerful Gush Emunim fanatic settler movement.
Palestinians end up fighting each other because the Israelis make it all but impossible for them NOT to end up fighting each other. Hamas was elected into government fair and square, but Israel wouldn’t allow Palestinians to be represented by people the Palestinians wanted to represent them. No way! Israel wants compliant traitors to represent the Palestinians, so that’s what Israel gets.
And the IDF has killed far more Palestinians since Annapolis than Palestinians have.
And I got those death tallies out of the newspapers - the same newspapers which are so quick to report a Palestinian terrorist attack in Jerusalem, but will always delicately place news of the carnage from IDF attacks on Palestinians in later paragraphs of their reports, AFTER they have framed these attacks ever so sympathetically in the preceding paragraphs. If any of you could come up with different numbers, I’m sure you would have done so by now.
March 7th, 2008 at 6:02 am
“[the UK]apparently unconcerned with the creeping Sharia in their own country”
Some concrete evidence of this assertion please. Where has any apsect of sharia law, in any of its various forms, been enacted in British law or local bylaw? Where is there a Sharia court in the UK which comes above UK law?
Just one real, actually existing example please.
March 7th, 2008 at 6:17 am
Freedom Bound, English law dictates that polygamy is illegal but Sharia supports it. The British government sides with Sharia law over English law by paying social security to the multiple wives of bigamists.
Sharia, rather than English, law is de facto for many oppressed Muslims. Politicians and police are too scared to talk about forced marriages, honour killings and abused women because of “cultural sensitivities” so leave any “internal” disputes up to sharia courts.
March 7th, 2008 at 6:40 am
CALL
1. The Israeli Embassy/ Consul Amir Gissin (416) 640 8500 and demand that the Olmert government resign for its weakness in fighting terrorism as it must be done. It has literally invited Rice to take charge of the running of this government.
2. the White House (202) 456-1111 and demand that the Bush administration stop interfering in Israel’s internal affairs. Rice should not return to Israel!! She is arrogant and has appeased the Arabs consistently.
March 7th, 2008 at 7:15 am
Peter D.
You are such a fucking idiot it’s embarassing for you.
March 7th, 2008 at 8:00 am
Pete D. you fucking bitch. Go fucking die you miscreant.
March 7th, 2008 at 9:19 am
Who’s the guy with the bagpipes? He looked ISM to me. Could he be celebrating the murder of Yeshiva students? It’s like watching the 4th Reich - and sounds like Peter feels right at home there.
March 8th, 2008 at 1:43 am
Religion of Peace update: Jihadist murders 8 Israe…
Fatah’s al Aqsa Martyr’s Brigade claimed responsibility for the terrorist attack, and Muslim extremists practically fell all over themselves to endorse the killings: Hamas ‘blessed’ it, Palestinians danced for joy in the streets, fired rifles in th…
March 9th, 2008 at 3:54 am
El atentado de Hamas en la escuela rabínica…
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March 9th, 2008 at 3:56 am
El atentado de Hamas en la escuela rabínica…
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June 6th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
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