Native Canadian To Palestinians: Stop Co-opting Our Struggle!

Meet Ryan Bellerose. He’s a Native Canadian who does not appreciate how palestinian propaganda has co-opted the native struggle (hat tip: BeShep33).

native canadianI am a Métis from Northern Alberta. My father, Mervin Bellerose, co-authored the Métis Settlements Act of 1989, which was passed by the Alberta legislature in 1990 and cemented our land rights. I founded Canadians For Accountability, a native rights advocacy group, and I am an organizer and participant in the Idle No More movement in Calgary. And I am a Zionist.

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Co-opting today’s native struggle to the Palestinian propaganda war is a fallacy. Though the Palestinians have undeniable ties to the land, first hand accounts by Mark Twain and countless other travelers to the Holy Land through the ages suggest that a large percentage of the Palestinian people immigrated to Palestine in recent decades.  And for 65 years, the Palestinians have convinced the world that they are worse off than many other stateless nations, despite all evidence to the contrary.  The Palestinians claim to have been colonized but it was their own leaders who refused to negotiate and who lost the land that they want by waging a needless war on Israel.  They claim to have faced genocide but they suffered no such thing: their population has exploded from a few hundred thousand in 1948 to over 4 million today.  They claim deprivation but their elites live in luxury while their people live in ramshackle poverty.

What’s more, the Palestinian leaders have never been interested in a peaceful solution for their people. They were given several opportunities to have their own state – for the first time in history — and refused each time, choosing war over peace because the offers were never deemed sufficient. They have persistently used terrorism to bring attention to their cause and their leaders have celebrated the killing of civilians by naming parks and schools after murderers.  And any Palestinian that questions the maximalist rhetoric or who suggests real compromise is immediately ostracized, branded a traitor, or killed.

The Palestinians are not like us.  Their fight is not our fight.  We natives believe in bringing about change peacefully, and we refuse to be affiliated with anyone who engages in violence targeting civilians.  I cannot remain silent and allow the Palestinians to gain credibility at our expense by claiming commonality with us. I cannot stand by while they trivialize our plight by tying it to theirs, which is largely self-inflicted.  Our population of over 65 million was violently reduced to a mere 10 million, a slaughter unprecedented in human history.  To compare that in whatever way to the Palestinians’ story is deeply offensive to me. The Palestinians did lose the land they claim is theirs, but they were repeatedly given the opportunity to build their state on it and to partner with the Jews — and they persistently refused peace overtures and chose war.   We were never given that chance.  We never made that choice.

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  • tom

    soooo true. straight to the point.

  • juvanya

    good stuff thanks. absolutely shocking that an idle no more goon is zionist. talk about strange bedfellows

  • Ryan Bellerose

    I don’t know why My being a rational moral and ethical human being while supporting Idle No More would be such a shock. Both Zionism and INM are ethical movements and while I admit I look somewhat like a Goon, its not incompreshensible to support Native rights and Jewish rights.

    Perhaps you just don’t understand the idea behind INM. first off the blockades are NOT Inm, we believe in peaceful resolution, the founding women were clear on that, but sometimes when you have a marginalised population, you have people act out on their own.

    The Indian act in Canada is a racist, misogynistic piece of legislation that infers that Indians are children to be protected from themselves. all we ask is to be partners of the state instead of Wards of the state. if you have any questions about this feel free to ask. There is a group on Facebook Called Canadians for accountability where you can learn about this as well.

    • juvanya

      Never saw this reply, but thanks for the clarification. We have the same problem in the States of keeping aboriginal Americans on reservations and not providing any real solution. I think any group that wants it should be given autonomy or free association. The US could still handle defense and foreign affairs, but other than that, aboriginal peoples could run their own lives.

  • Slava

    Mr. Bellerose,

    I can understand why you wouldn’t want others hitching their wagon to your people’s plights and struggles and why you must keep your own people’s interests at heart so that you think and write from that perspective.

    That being said, I think going so far as to call yourself a Zionist or make such sweeping remarks about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is overreaching your measure and paints you as naive or foolish in the eyes of anyone more familiar with the conflict.

    I don’t know where or how you were informed about these issues, but to an Israeli living here it sounds like all you’ve been exposed to are very basic pro-Israeli arguments, of the sort they tell to tourists or to young Jews that come to visit Israel.
    I have lived here for over 20 years and as a non-Jew I’ve really tried to understand this conflict and the situation here on all of its little complexities and intrigues and all I can say for certain is that I don’t know much at all.

    If I’ll be honest, I think you should have limited your statements to dissociating yourself from the Palestinians without touching on Israeli-Palestinian politics. It is evident enough even to someone like me, that admittedly knows nothing about your people’s struggle, that these two issues are nothing alike and that should have been enough.

  • Ryan Bellerose

    Slava, I have been very involved in advocating for Israel for a long time, I was writing mainly to people who have only a very basic grasp of the Israel/Palestine conflict.

    I assure you I have a very good grasp of the situation and I highly doubt there are many people who are more “familiar” with it than I am unless its people living in Israel. I have appeared in numerous debates and programs regarding the conflict and the details of it and I know far more than the average person because its something I have always been interested in.

    what exactly did you take issue with in what I wrote? I am curious as I thought I stayed pretty true to the facts without personalising anything or saying anything untrue.

    I absolutely consider myself to be a zionist btw, I have never hidden my support for Israel or its right to exist.

    • Slava

      Mr Bellerose,

      To be clear, nothing which you have written is, strictly speaking, untrue. It just paints a very one-sided picture of the Israeli-Palestinian situation to anyone which doesn’t know or doesn’t want to know more about the matter. Like I have said, it reads like the texts which Jewish tourists are told when they visit Israel, especially the younger ones coming here for “Taglit” aka “Birthright.”

      I stumbled on this site accidentally and I was attracted by the headline of this particular entry. When I first read your article I felt that you were needlessly involving yourself and the organizations you are part of in Israeli-Palestinian politics. I felt that a more reserved line would have done a better job of delivering the message that the struggle of the native-Canadians is neither similar nor connected to the Palestinian’s situation in any way.

      I had commented before I realized that this is a pro-Israeli blog for non-Israelis. Knowing this now, and having understood that you engage in public relations as a pro-Israeli spokesperson I withdraw my criticism of your article. Reading it again, the article does strike me like an even mix between pro-Israeli public relations and what I took to be your original message that the native-Canadian and Palestinian situations are separate and dissimilar.

      I was originally upset to find a group of people who know relatively little about a subject yet have built a little community around it, involving themselves in it and, I must assume, feeling good in continuously reaffirming their commonly held beliefs. To me this is equally as upsetting as seeing those European “peace activists” that know next to nothing about the situation, yet feel compelled to come here and fart around feeling self righteous for a week or two, as if they were on a highly moral form of safari adventure. For the record, I understand that I cannot stop anyone from doing as they please and that I don’t have any place in neither group’s discussions, especially not as some sort of pompous, self-appointed arbiter.

      I am, however, frustrated because I have lived here for a long time, as neither an Arab nor a Jew, while trying to understand the political landscape and I feel I only know enough to say that I cannot *morally* support neither side in this conflict.

  • Ryan Bellerose

    I am pro Israeli and have never hidden that fact, I am also not anti palestinian and have never hidden that fact either. I do however disagree with your assertion that neither side is moral. while Israel has its genesis in an unpleasant situation, I think when you look at the preponderance of evidence, its clear that while Israel has acted in self defence, it has also shown great restraint as no other displaced people in history has ever INCREASED its population upon being displaced. I think its also important to note that Israel has given up land for peace on at least 2 occasions with little effect.

    I don’t think Israel is by any means perfect, just as I don’t think my own country is perfect, they both have issues to setttle, but when you care about a country, you are willing to work at settling those issues, and not just complain about them.

    anyway thank you for your replies.

    • Slava

      Mr. Bellerose,

      This time I would argue with you, but I do not see any benefit in doing so. You have a job to do, I’m just passing through. I did not come here to play the devil’s advocate.

      I will say this though, give me a few days with any foreigner and I will make them an avid supporter of one side in this conflict, give me a few more and I will change their mind completely. Moreover, I wouldn’t need to tell him a single lie in the process.

      It was interesting to learn that, at least to some, Zionism and the native-Canadian movement have common ground. Thank you for your time.

  • SarahSue

    Ryan Bellerose,

    You may not know that the muslins in Israel also tried to get the American Indians on board with their ‘cause’. The American Indians reacted in the same manner you did. They wrote several editorials stating that Indians would never resort to terrorism against their beloved America. They also made plain that American Indians were making great strides in improving their lot and that the muslims have never accomplished anything positive in over sixty years. They ended by asking the muslims why they would think that American Indians would want to join losers like them. They send those muslims packing, with their tails between their legs and that was the last time anyone ever tried to equate the American Indian cause with the muslim jihad.

    On to Israel! Several things you said puzzled me. If you are pro Israel and not anti palestinian, then what does that make you?

    The muslims have declared war on Israel. They have made it plain that they want to eliminate Israel. So, if you are pro Israel, how can you also be ‘not anti palestinian’? Do you think that a group that has rejected the chance to have their own little Judenrein hellhole in the heartland of Israel has any right to claim legitimate grievances? In fact, Ryan, you have made a very good case as to why we all should be very anti-muslim. So why aren’t you?

    Another statement you made was ‘I don’t think Israel is by any means perfect’. I have heard so many so-called friends of Israel drag this little piece of crap into every discussion of Israel. It is as if they feel the need to pre-empty Israel’s detractors by agreeing first that Israel is not perfect, thereby forestalling a long recitation of Israel’s ‘sins’. And by saying that Israel is not perfect, they let Israel’s detractor know that they agree with at least some of what they say.

    This is what a true friend of Israel says. Israel is indeed a perfect country. It has a well functioning democracy with a government elected by the people. Israel has freedom of the press and freedom of speech. The people of Israel have to right to agree or disagree with anything their government says and does. They have the right to vote. They have the right to come and go when and where they please. They have the right to pick the schools their kids to go and the education they get. They are free to pick their religion. They are free to vacation where they want, spend their money however they see fit and work where they want.

    What more do you expect from Israel, Ryan?

    SarahSue

    • Inessa

      To be fair, you won’t find many Israelis who will state that Israel is perfect. Unfortunately, if Israel didn’t have to spend as much in financial and human resources on defence, it would be closer to the utopian view. Taxes are relatively high. They have moved retirement pensioner age to nearly 70. Aged pensions are not adequate. It is almost impossible to survive living on a pension, without having family supplement, or going without. I was quite appalled to find that my parents in law regard meat as a luxury item, having both worked very hard till retirement age. My father in law had to give up driving a car because he could not afford to keep it. The medical insurance will pay for some medications over others based on economical decisions, not medical. This in no way means Israel deserves to be vilified, but it is quite correct to state that it is not perfect.

    • Ryan Bellerose

      It makes me Pro Israeli, I don’t need to be anti anything in order to believe that supporting Israel is a moral ethical and rational choice that I made based on careful consideration of the facts. I support the Palestinian PEOPLE in the push for self determination, I support them getting a state, it just cannot be Israel and it needs to not be a threat to Israel.

      why would I be anti Muslim? I believe the best way to defeat radical Islam is to embrace the moderates who will change the religion from the inside…from being violent to being more peaceful, our best ally against extremism are the moderates, and generalising an entire people based on the extremists is silly, I dont want you to judge me by Westboro and I wont judge you by neturei karta ok? Chasing away allies is not something Israel can afford to do.

      Israel is by no means perfect, no country is,I cant name one country that doesnt have its roots in something unpleasant. My own Country right now is having to be dragged kicking and screaming into honouring its word on treaties, and is having to be forced to give us Native Canadians equal rights instead of treating us like children, however Canada is a still a great country and is far better than almost anywhere else in the world. if I wasnt willing to admit we have things to work on, then It would mean I didnt care about my country or making it be the best it can be. As for Israel there are things it could do better or more effectively, however I still firmly believe that Israel is by far the best country to live in in the middle east and its also by far the most concerned with human rights I dont support Israel out of obligation, I do so because its simply the right thing to do.

      I agree with some of your last paragraph Sarah, however a true friend of Israel also says ” sometimes you are wrong, but even when you are wrong I will still support you because I believe in you, I believe that you WANT to be better and I believe that you can be better.”

      • SarahSue

        Ryan,
        You say that you are a moral and ethical person and I believe you. So let me appeal to your morals and ethics.
        You say that you support the ‘people’ in a push for self determination. Everyone wants this, that is, everyone except the people themselves. Because the people in this case are muslims and not westerners like us. The hamas and the fatah, who represent the muslims in Israel, have stated time and time again that ‘palestine is ours, from the river to the sea’. They have also stated that they will not rest until every Jew is pushed into the sea. Not only do the muslims in Israel feel this way, but they have maintained this position since long before 1948. That is why most western government only ask concessions from the Israelis. They know they have never gotten one concession from the muslims and they never will.
        You say that the best way to defeat radical islam is to embrace the moderates. However a world renown expert on islam says ‘ There is no radical or moderate islam. There is only islam.’ Who said this? Tayyip Erdoğan, Prime Minister of Turkey. Who do you think is correct, him or you? Yusuf al-Qaradawi, a cleric in Egypt, has also recently said that if apostasy did not have a death statute, than islam would have faded long ago. And a person is guilty of apostasy if they do not embrace all of islam as outlined in the koran.
        It is the leadership of the muslims that does not let them moderate upon pain of death. So how are we supposed to reach out to so called moderates when this puts them under a death sentence?
        You say that ‘generalising an entire people based on the extremists is silly’. I agree, even though I would point out that these so called ‘extremists’ number in the millions. Rather, I base my opinions of islam on the koran. The koran calls for all muslims to kill all Jews and apostates. I say this is evil and everyone who believes this is evil.
        The muslims have a saying, ‘first comes Saturday, then come Sunday’. First, they cleansed all muslims countries of the Jews, now they are going after the Christians. This is happening now, today, as we speak.
        That is why, Ryan, I am comfortable in saying we need to pick a side. Because this is a simple issue of good and evil, right or wrong. The muslims are clearly evil and the Israelis are not, therefore I am unequivocally on the side of the Israelis and against their enemies, the muslims.
        SarahSue

        • Dan

          Sarah, with all due respect, if you care at all about Israel, please shut the fuck up.

      • Ted

        Mr. Bellerose,

        You have a great grasp of history and reality, and are thus a righteous gentile–one that would have toiled to save lives had you been in WWII Europe.

        Some here like ‘slava’ oh so desperately want to paint a picture where the nazi movement of Hajj Amin Al Husseini is every bit as righteous as the Jewish resistance to it, but you wisely have not bit on it one iota.

        To the bystander who is not well schooled on the facts, I recommend reading the May 8, 1948 issue of the Nation Associates, which can partly be found online as ‘British Record on Partition’. The ‘palestinian’ movement is a complete fraud and is just a fable of tormented fascists used to demonize and steal land from Jews. Not surprisingly *Israel* is the only state supporting palestinian Arabs, who are treated by Israeli doctors routinely, and are economic beneficiaries of Israel.

        Regarding the Native American rejection of the pali-nazi narrative, this is no great surprise given that some native Americans (Cherokee) actually feel a strong kinship to Jews, and the Los Lunas Decalogue Stone confirms that ancient Hebrews mixed in with native Americans and were among the first ones in North America. Not surprisingly, the US State Department scrubs this out of US history of course (and all artifacts with ancient Hebrew script, such as the bat creek stone, are deemed ‘hoaxes’).

    • Slava

      SarahSue,

      A lot of the things you have written in the last paragraph are simply wrong. They are not true.

      Also, your sweeping generalization about Muslims and your confusion about Arab peoples, religious groups and nations doesn’t do you any credit or make you seem anything less than biased and ignorant of the subject.

      It really bothers me to see people express themselves so strongly when they are either attacking a strawman or defending a fantasy.
      For the love of god, if you’re Canadian stick to Canadian affairs or at least know what you are talking about. Come live here for a year or two talk to different people. Talk to some Ethiopian Jews (some that came before the 90′s and those that came after), some Russian ones (some that came before the 90′s, some that came in the 90′s and some that came only recently). Talk to some European Jews and Jews from Arab countries. Talk to some Arabs, some Christian ones, some Muslim ones, some Palestinian, some Israeli, some both Israeli and Palestinian, some Arabs that live in Occupied territory, some that live next to a fundamental Jewish settlement, some that live in peaceful mixed cities, some that live in Jerusalem. Talk to American Jews that came here to settle, talk to some hardcore Orthodox Jews, some Breslev, some from the heart of Jerusalem that don’t even speak Hebrew, some recent immigrants from France. Talk to recent converts. Each one of those, and many many other subgroups within them holds a different view point and a different outlook on history and current affairs, each pulling in a different direction.

      It is downright infuriating to read you boil it all down to “Muslims bad – Israel perfect.”
      Unless you are paid to be the mouthpiece of a specific viewpoint please make an effort to inform yourself before you take such a strong position.

      • SarahSue

        Slava,
        Why must people who hold strong positions only do so because they are ignorant? Is it not possible to hold strong opinions because of a wealth of knowledge?
        You say that I make sweeping generalizations about muslims. No, rather I make very specific charges against them. Charges that are based on fact and history.
        Muslims read and believe the koran. The larger part of the koran commands muslims to kill all infidels and apostates. That includes you and me. I take exception to this, don’t you?
        Just when I think that muslims have sunk as low into depravity as possible, they surprise me. Two recent developments have really surprised me. One was a statement from Al-Shafie, who is considered to be the founder of islamic jurisprudence. He said that ‘One may eat the flesh of a human body’. Google this. It is a fact. This is cannibalism supported and condoned by a renown expert on islam. Another statement made by an islamic expert was that tiny muslim baby girls need to have their faces covered. The reason? Pedophilia is on the rise by muslim men against muslim girls. This cleric thought a veil would protect this babies.
        It is statements like this and thousands more that make me take a strong position against all muslims because all muslims believe and obey their experts.
        Slava, you say that you have lived in Israel for over twenty years and you still cannot pick a side. Yet the muslims have picked a side and it is against you.
        You paraphrased me saying, ‘Muslims bad – Israel perfect.’ This is not my position. My position is, ‘muslims evil, Israelis good, Israel perfect’ and I stand by that assessment.
        SarahSue

  • Mcfly

    I’m amazed at Slava’s blabbering. Under all this pretentious and hollow talk it’s easy to find a thinly disguised contempt for the country where he/she lives and an inexcusable moral equivalence while talking about both sides.

    “I live in Israel therefore I know what I’m talking about”. How pathetic is that? I don’t even have to remember that some of the most obtuse and moronic Israel bashers were born/live there. Ilan Pappe, Israel Shamir, the guys from Ha’aretz…

    “I will say this though, give me a few days with any foreigner and I will make them an avid supporter of one side in this conflict, give me a few more and I will change their mind completely.”

    Don’t fool yourself or judge others by your standards. Even if the Arab cause was a just one, a moral individual would never support it after seeing the death cult/hate society they created.
    And let’s face it, there’s only one way to understand this conflict: through history. Anyone who makes up his mind based on the news or on a few personal experiences is a fool, at best.

  • Mcfly

    But I understand Slava’s slightly pedantic behavior. It’s very tempting to see the parallels between both sides and feel morally superior to both. But if you really can’t see the difference, just imagine how would a foreigner (or even a native) like you be treated in an Arab State in general (and in a “Palestinian” in particular) while expressing such views…

    If that’s not enough to make you “*morally* support” a side in this conflict, then your comments say more about you than they say about Israel.

  • Dan

    Can’t we just appreciate that we have someone who supports Israel, instead of harping on him relentlessly? Jesus fucking Christ.

  • Caro

    I agree totally with you Dan.

    Ryan, we Jews are lucky to have a friend like you. The Native Canadians are also lucky to have you. Keep up the good work!

  • http://admincanadiana.wordpress.com/ Pro Israel Girl

    I wish I could give Ryan a 100 thumbs up! I think I’ve lost track of how far the Palestinian movement has lowered themselves over the years.

  • Ryan Bellerose

    I have engaged with people who claim to be pro Palestinian on forums and frankly they are usually not Pro Palestinian but simply anti Israeli. thats why I have always been vocal about not letting them use the plight and situation of Native north americans as propoganda tools. I appreciate my Jewish friends immensely, if not for them I wouldnt have gotten more involved in the push for Native rights. I am not here to argue the validity of my beliefs. Mazel Tov.

    • Dan

      I am curious, how many Native Americans do you know who actually buy into the “Palestinians are just like Native Americans” garbage? I remember Russell Means made a really dumb comment about it before he died, but he’s the only example I can think of.

    • http://www.friendsofsimonwiesenthalcenter.com/ Elena Livertovsky

      Dear Mr. Bellrose,
      My name is Elena Livertovsky and I am an Event Coordinator at the Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center for Holocaust Studies (FSWC) in Toronto. We would like to invite you to be our keynote speaker for an event. We wanted to inquire what your typical speaking fee, travel fee and related fees are for speaking engagements. If you could please e-mail or call me at your convenience, I would greatly appreciate it.
      Elena Livertovsky
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      T: (416)864 9735 x 29
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      Thank you and I look forward to hearing from you.

    • http://www.friendsofsimonwiesenthalcenter.com/ Elena Livertovsky

      Dear Mr. Bellrose,
      My name is Elena Livertovsky and I am an Event Coordinator at the Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center for Holocaust Studies (FSWC) in Toronto. We would like to invite you to be our keynote speaker for an event. We wanted to inquire what your typical speaking fee, travel fee and related fees are for speaking engagements. If you could please e-mail or call me at your convenience, I would greatly appreciate it.
      Elena Livertovsky
      Event Coordinator
      Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center for Holocaust Studies
      902-5075 Yonge St., Toronto, ON, M2N 6C6
      T: (416)864 9735 x 29
      F: (416)864 1083
      [email protected]
      Thank you and I look forward to hearing from you.

  • Ryan Bellerose

    Not Very Many, usually its the less educated ones who don’t have a lot of exposure to the world or worse, the ones who attended some liberals arts school and just bought into the propoganda. not very many in canada at all.

    • Dan

      That’s a relief. Indigenous American support for anti-Zionism would be a bitter irony, considering the Palestinians are in large part the direct lineal descendents of Arab colonists who invaded in the 7th century CE, and the Romans who evicted us even earlier than that. And, as you said, many are immigrants who arrived decades after we began making our return. The fact that we bear a closer genetic relationship to the Samaritans and Druze than the Palestinians do is pretty telling, in fact.

      That’s not to say that they have NO ties to the land, but simply that they need to recognize that it originally belonged to someone else. They also need to realize that we’re not going away.

  • Ilazarka

    It’s interesting to read all your comments but I definitively think that the problem is deeper.

    The Arab civilization has do to a serious historical commemoration to analyze and recognize that all the conquests she did has destroyed many indigenous cultures especially in Africa..

    They also have to beg pardon for the status of dhimmi which was a really apartheid policy.

    As long as they don’t do it, they will keep on propaganda and revisionnism and ignorant people will continue to believe them.

    I am from Tunisia and I know what I am talking about.

  • native woman

    A bunch of hogwash. Not only that, he is taking up with Zionist media who oftentimes promote hatred of and racism towards natives in Canada. He is incorrect about his assertions as well that Palestinians are not indigenous to that land. They are. Invading European colonizers are not. I suspect he is a Zionist Christian with an ugly agenda. That scares me. I have written extensively about the Palestinian right to homeland and right of return. I am one Native who is not driven by religious bias in this situation. But he is utterly wrong.

  • TW Bourque

    Mr. Bellerose

    As a member of the Metis Nation I take some exception to your stance as you clearly do not understand the reality of the First Nations relationship with a large number (not all) of the Jewish community.
    As you claim to be well read and have thoroughly researched your position perhaps you are willing to go a step further and read up on; Gary McHales relationship with the JDL, Frances Widdowsons relationship with Gary McHale and Izzy Aspers view on us “conquered peoples” (not unlike the Palestinians). The fact that the Sun tabloid chose to publish your article is not alot to be proud of. The Sun also employs the likes of; Michael Coren, Ezra Levant and Brian Lilley who are all shining examples of racists masquerading as free speech advocates. I’d be ashamed to be on the same print as these individuals.
    To be clear on this I do not accept violence as and ends to a means and reject the Palestinian approach to resolution, however this does not automatically mean I have to support Israels appraoch to this conflict either. As you grow older you will begin to realize that most of lifes issues/struggles are grey and very few of them are black and white.

    In closing I’d like to point out you true colors have shone through with these words;
    “the ones who attended some liberals arts school”
    As if an education is a bad thing….piteous really. You would likely benefit a great deal from an education as it is quite evident you are lacking in that department.

    • Ryan Bellerose

      Considering you claim to be educated and then make statements that cannot possibly be authenticated as facts, I am somewhat amused by your attack on me here.

      Lets examine some of the more ridiculous assertions.

      1-what exactly is this “large number” of the jewish community, I saw you post 2 examples, so in your mind is 2 a large number?

      2- using the Sun as a medium to further the cause of indigenous rights was actually rather brilliant of me I thought, what better instrument than that of my enemy? but then you in your abject brilliance seem fixated on the method not the message.

      3-I am not as young as you seem to think, in my 37 years on this planet I have educated myself quite thoroughly and don’t need you to “explain” anything to me.

      4- actually I attended university, but I don’t see that as anything all that special as I have learned far more on my own than in a colonialist robot factory or liberal arts moron factory. I take it you attended one of those such august institutions.

      Native woman, just because you have written quite extensively about something, does not make it true, the very fact that you are trying to claim indigenous status for a coloniser/occupier people, shows that you are either stupid, or completely uneducated. I suggest you go brush up on your middle eastern history lessons, and then learn what indigenous means, because conquering the middle east in the 7th century, doesn’t make one indigenous anymore than white people become indigenous to north america.

    • Ilazarka

      TW Bourque

      The problem is that all these arab countries don’t let you the choice than fighting ! Israeli are the only one who resist on the arab.
      Since the 7th century, each time the arab civilization wanted to conquest a land,they succeeded : Asia, Northern Africa ..and for the first time a people (Jews) resist and they don’t accept it.

      You should have a more global representation of the problem.

      Many native americans and canadians believe that only europeans become violent when they conquest land, but if you had been conquested by Middle-east, it would have happened the same thing…!

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