Terrorists By a Different Name
Hamas has backtracked on earlier statements expressing regret over Israelis being harmed by their rockets.
The Hamas government in Gaza distanced itself on Saturday from an earlier statement in which it expressed regret for harming Israeli civilians in rocket attacks.
Hamas, in an unusual move, expressed regret for the deaths of Israeli civilians in Palestinian rocket attacks during fighting in Gaza a year ago.
That apology was part of the Hamas government’s response to a United Nations report that alleged both Hamas and Israel committed war crimes during Israel’s Gaza offensive last winter. The UN report, authored by South African jurist Richard Goldstone, accused Hamas of firing rockets indiscriminately at Israeli civilians.
On Saturday, the Gaza government said the report it submitted does not include any apologies in this regard.
In the report by a committee set up by Hamas to examine the UN war crimes allegations, the authors said “we regret any harm that may have befallen any Israeli civilian.”
“We hope the Israeli civilians understand that their government’s continued attacks on us were the key issue and the cause,” added the report, of which Reuters obtained a copy.
Mohammed-Faraj al-Ghoul, justice minister in the Hamas government and the chairman of the committee which drafted the report, said on Saturday “some words or phrases were taken out of context. The report held the [Israeli] occupation fully responsible and it did not include apologies.”
Israel, where Hamas suicide bombers have killed hundreds of civilians over two decades, had already dismissed any apology for the three non-combatants hit by rockets from Gaza in the war as insincere.
In response to the report, delivered to the UN this week, Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said Friday that “for years Hamas has boasted about deliberately targeting civilians, either through suicide bombings, by gunfire or by rockets. Who are they trying to fool now?”
Meanwhile, our Fatah “peace partners” are upset that Hamas expressed regret over Israeli deaths to begin with.
Fatah spokesman Ahmad Assaf expressed astonishment at Hamas’ regret for the deaths of Israeli civilians by rocket fire
“while they [Hamas] don’t regret killing and injuring hundreds of Palestinians during the bloody coup they staged [in 2007] …” he said in a statement on Saturday.“President Abbas and the Palestinian leadership have always warned of these useless rockets,” he added, in reference to Hamas’ investigation into the Goldstone report submitted late on Wednesday, which stated that the Islamist movement’s intentions were to fire solely at military targets, but the rudimentary nature of the projectiles led to the unintended death of Israeli civilians, Hamas said.
“While Hamas avoids speaking of reconciliation, refuses to sign the Egyptian document and restore Palestinian national unity, they are now humiliating themselves in front of Israel and the international community in order to get recognition from both at the very expense of the Palestinian people and its just cause,” Assaf said.
Notice how Abbas was said to have warned Hamas about the rockets – not because their firing was immoral, but that they were “useless.” Which I presume means they were not killing enough people.
Yet more proof that Fatah are terrorists just like Hamas. The only difference is they choose to wear Armani suits instead of table cloths on their head.
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As Edgar Allan Poe might say, the Hamas justice minister is neither man nor woman, and is neither brute nor human, he is an al-Ghoul.
> Which I presume means they were not killing enough people.
You have killed much more Palestinians.
Mostly terrorists.
No, mostly innocent children.
Achieving peace is now impossible as far as Israel is with impunity. Two state solution is impossible as far as Israel continues settlement. How can Palestinians build their nation with that many bug holes in their land? Ten-month temporary freeze? No. You are building schools and other public buildings.
How about one-state solution?
No. Because the Jews will become the minority. Perhaps, it will be possible after killing enough Palestinians to make one nation where the Jews dominate.
"Mostly innocent children." You're a dirty racist liar. You are the child murderer, not Israelis, since the Final Solution wasn't final enough for your Nazi bloodlust. Go back to the pigsty where your religion, or non-religion, comes from.
> You're a dirty racist liar. You are the child murderer, not Israelis, since the Final Solution wasn't final enough for your Nazi bloodlust.
Racist? Child murderer? Nazi?
Why? Are you psyco?
There is no Nazi, racist or child murderer around me.
Being Nazi is just convenient for you as well as Palestinianss are terrorists.
You better buy a mirror. You can see a racist in the mirror.
You didn't question "liar".
Freud would say you slipped.
Ha-ha-ha!
Very childish feeding!
Be a good boy, baby.
I have an idea. How about a two-state solution, where Jews can live safely and have full civil rights, as Palestinian citizens in Bet-El, Hebron, etc.
Answer: Because Jews have never been safe and secure in Moslem countries. As an example, why, after three THOUSAND years, are there no Jews in Yemen? What did the miniscule Jewish community do to have to flee? Nothing at all.
And THAT is why we need a Jewish state, and the '67 borders are two narrow to be secure. OR has anyone forgot "safe and secure borders"?
Michael, I think this is the most insightful comment you’ve made on this site (and please don’t think I’m being sarcastic–I HATE SARCASM). In this crazy world filled with religious intolerance there is definitely a need for a Jewish state. My belief is the only way to ensure a strong and prosperous Israel as a Jewish state is to establish an independent Palestine on the West Bank. A one-state solution dooms both peoples into endless conflict.
Ah, yes, but with what borders? See the second part. Menachem Begin referred to the '67 borders as "Auschwitz borders". I believe resolution 242 referred to "Safe and secure borders". This has been forgotten.
Off the top of my head (no googling), it was Abba Eban.
Nice Labor man. Even better.
"Impunity"? Maybe you refer to the way the Arabs can always get away with war?
On the one hand, it's nigh illegal by some for them to actually lose anything from the struggle. They must not lose land (that's "illegal occupation"), must not lose economy (they always get aid from the West post-conflict), and must not lose people (save for volunteers – and any extra deaths will be blamed on Israel, not on the enemy's tactics which _depend_ on hiding amongst civilians).
On the other hand, any gains are kept by the Arabs, and the international community will insist on this (e.g. ethnic cleansing of East Jerusalem, Syrian access to the Kinneret, release of terrorists, etc.). Nor will the international community ever insist the Palestinians follow through their agreements. Therefor, It is not a surprise war breaks often! It is likely the conflict will continue a long long time since the one sided approach shows no signs of abating.
One sided approach?
Oh, yes. U.S.A. has been supporting Israel, exporting weapons and defining Palestinians as terrorists.
How many Palestinians have you killed? How much land have you usurped?
"Unilateral" is the word for Israel.
One has to admit, you make a half-decent propagandist – you ignore what people say in order to repeat your soundbites endlessly. You also lack all shame which is good in your chosen profession: it helps you to support a movement which is steeped in indiscriminate murder while pointing the bloody finger at others.
P.S. It's rather ironic how all the diligent US efforts to secure more Israeli concessions go unrewarded. No matter how much it tries, it still gains the hatred of ungrateful people.
> in indiscriminate murder while pointing the bloody finger at others.
This is right if it ir for Israel.
> It's rather ironic how all the diligent US efforts to secure more Israeli concessions go unrewarded. No matter how much it tries, it still gains the hatred of ungrateful people.
If the efforts are to right direction, they would be rewarded. The more one-sided the US efforts are, the more unrewarded. That's logic.
Yes, they are. Obama only extracts concessions from Israel.
"Which I presume means they were not killing enough people."
Perhaps he means useless to achieve peace.
Just sayin…
Hey Shoko, you are a mean-spirited person who chooses to ignore that fact that Palestinians care less about their children and more about killing Jews. We have dealt with this kind of enemy before, so their fate is sealed. Crack a Jewish history book and you'll figure it out. Finally, I bless you and your family to be treated the same way the Palesinians treat Jews – to the 10th generation, if you last that long.
Don't handle all the Jews by the same mean. Not all the Jews think in the same way as you. Only ZIONISTS.
> I bless you and your family to be treated the same way the Palesinians treat Jews – to the 10th generation, if you last that long.
Is this your prayer? And are you one of the Chosen People?
Oh, no! I have never prayed for others to be treated the same way as I was treated badly. You have very tolerant prayer.
The Palestinians had treated Jews nicely before Irgun attaked them.
Are they careless about their children? And you care for your children? If you really care for your children, you should follow 1967 line.
When you are stepping on the cat's foot, you will continue to be scratched by it.
Follow the resolution and then you can open your big mouths. Or you will be ignored by and isolated from the international community.
“The Palestinians had treated Jews nicely before Irgun attaked [sic] them.” This is an outright lie. Anyone who knows the slightest history knows the Arabs’ attacks started long before the Irgun existed.
“Are they careless about their children? And you care for your children? If you really care for your children, you should follow 1967 line.”
Thanks for letting us know you don’t really care for children (well, maybe you only care about non jews), but we won’t be taking your advice.
“Follow the resolution and then you can open your big mouths.” Maybe you should learn something about 242 if you care to look past propaganda.
“Or you will be ignored by and isolated from the international community.” We’re used to this – they have always preferred oil over any semblance of justice.
Untrue. I am not a Zionist, and I completely disagree with you. So do most non-Zionist and even anti-zionist Jews (except for the leftists and the nuts).
The Irgun's actions were in response to terrorism, and the failure of the British to act. If you do not know about the Arab muders of Jews that preceded them, you do not know any history.
Resolution 242 does not require return of all territories (except in French). IIRC, it refers to "'secure and recognized boundaries'" (which the '67 line is not) .
> Resolution 242 does not require return of all territories (except in French). IIRC, it refers to "'secure and recognized boundaries'" (which the '67 line is not) .
That's the matter. 242 in English does not say "all the territory" because US and Britin fussed over Israel.
> The Irgun's actions were in response to terrorism, and the failure of the British to act. If you do not know about the Arab muders of Jews that preceded them, you do not know any history.
You are brainwashed by the history you learned. Don't you know Plan D?
Why can the Irgun's well-designed killing be justified? If it is possible to justify Irgun, why not Hamas? I understand you are taught very one-sided history.
Let me try one simple question.
What did the modern Jews of Yemen do to deserve being forced to leave after three thousand years?
> What did the modern Jews of Yemen do to deserve being forced to leave after three thousand years?
So, does it mean any grace of modern Israel?
Right now, as the continuation of a process that started at least with the beginning of the State, the last Jews of Yemen, who have been there since King Solomon, fled the country to avoid being attacked by their Arab neighbors. They are now in the U.S.
The reason they were threatened is because of presumed actions by Israel. Now these Jews had nothing to do with it, and Israel of course did not threaten Yemen. A significant percantage of the Jews in Israel are here for that reason.
This is what happens to Jews who live among Arabs. (Originally this was true for Christians also.) Everything can go fine, and then, because of some perceived action by Jews somewhere else, or simply because they appear to be too "uppity", their lives are endangered. This is why there has to be a Jewish state in the Middle East, and one with borders more defensible than the rediculous "green line".
Oh, by the way, what is yiur native language? It clearly isn't English.
> So Shoko hates the Jews more than he loves th e Fallacetinians!
Why do I have to hate the Jews more than love the Fallacetinians? What is Fallacetinians? Maybe it is the racism word that you are likely to use.
And I'll tell you something. I'm "She".
Sorry I'm not living in a crevice. You crawl back to the cave where you are born.
It is racist to use the Arabic pronunciation of the word?