Lauren Booth: “Now That I’m Muslim, I Will Never Have My Breasts Out in Public Again.”

Vapid terror-supporter Lauren Booth has opened up further about her conversion to Islam.

And as suspected, her conversion seems to have been triggered more by her love of palestinians and her “daddy” issues than anything else.

lauren booth muslimIt is the most peculiar journey of my life. The carriage is warm and my fellow passengers unexpectedly welcoming. We are progressing ­rapidly and without delay. Rain, snow, rail unions, these things make no difference to the forward rush.

Yet I have no idea how I came to be on board nor, stranger still, quite where the train is heading, apart from this: the destination, wherever it might be, is the most important place I can imagine.

I know this all seems gloriously far-fetched, but really it is how I feel about my conversion, announced last week, to Islam.

Although the means and ­mechanisms that brought me to this point remain mysterious, the decision will determine every aspect of my life to come as firmly as the twin rails beneath that exhilarating express.

Asked for a simple explanation of how I, an English hack journalist, a ­single working mother, signed up to the Western media’s least-favourite religion, I suppose I would point to an intensely spiritual experience in an Iranian mosque just over a month ago.

But it makes more sense to go back to January 2005, when I arrived alone in the West Bank to cover the elections there for The Mail on Sunday. It is safe to say that before that visit I had never spent any time with Arabs, or Muslims.

The whole experience was a shock, but not for the reasons I might have expected. So much of what we know about this part of the world and the people who follow Mohammed the Prophet is based on ­disturbing – some would say biased – news bulletins.

So, as I flew towards the Middle East, my mind was full of the usual 10pm buzz­words: radical extremists, fanatics, forced marriages, suicide bombers and jihad. Not much of a travel brochure.

My very first experience, though, could hardly have been more positive. I had arrived on the West Bank without a coat, as the Israeli airport authorities had kept my suitcase.

Walking around the centre of Ramallah, I was shivering, whereupon an old lady grabbed my hand.

Talking rapidly in Arabic, she took me into a house on a side street. Was I being kidnapped by a rather elderly terrorist? For several confusing minutes I watched her going through her daughter’s wardrobe until she pulled out a coat, a hat and a scarf.

I was then taken back to the street where I had been walking, given a kiss and sent warmly on my way. There had been not a single comprehensible word exchanged between us.

It was an act of generosity I have never forgotten, and one which, in various guises, I have seen repeated a hundred times. Yet this warmth of spirit is so rarely represented in what we read and see in the news.

Over the course of the next three years I made numerous journeys to the occupied lands which were once historic Palestine (pray tell, when was there ever a “historic Palestine” – ed.) At first I went on ­assignments; as time went by, I started travelling in solidarity with charities and pro-Palestinian groups.

I felt challenged by the hardships ­suffered by Palestinians of all creeds. It is important to remember there have been Christians in the Holy Land for 2,000 years and that they too are suffering under Israel’s illegal occupation (yet no word from Booth on Christian suffering at the hands of Muslims -ed.)

Gradually I found expressions such as ‘Mashallah!’ (a phrase of gratitude meaning ‘God has willed it’) and ‘Al Hamd­illilah!’ (akin to ‘Halle­lujah’) creeping into my everyday speech. These are exclamations of delight derived from the 100 names of God, or Allah. Far from being nervous of Muslim groups, I started looking forward to meeting them. It was an opportunity to be with people of intelligence, wit and, above all else, kindness and generosity.

I’m going to take a break here to pray for ten minutes as it’s 1.30pm. (There are five prayers each day, the times varying throughout the year depending on the rising and setting of the sun.) (this conversion is not for show is it? – ed.)

I was in no doubt that I had embarked on a change of political understanding, one in which Palestinians became families rather than terror suspects, and Muslim cities communities rather than ‘collateral damage’.

But a religious journey? This would never have occurred to me. Although I have always liked to pray and, since childhood, have enjoyed the stories of Jesus and the more ancient prophets that I had picked up at school and at the Brownies, I was brought up in a very secular household.

It was probably an appreciation of Muslim culture, in partic­ular that of Muslim women, that first drew me towards a broader appreciation of Islam.

How strange Muslim women seem to English eyes, all covered up from head to toe, sometimes walking behind their husbands (although this is far from universally the case), with their children around their long skirts.

By contrast, professional women in Europe are happy to make the most of their appearance. I, for example, have always been proud of my lovely blonde hair and, yes, my cleavage (I think I am going to be sick -ed.)

It was common working practice to have this on display at all times because so much of what we sell these days has to do with our appearance.

Yet whenever I have been invited to broadcast on television, I have sat watching in wonder as the female presenters spend up to an hour on their hair and make- up, before giving the serious ­topics under discussion less than 15 minutes’ attention. Is this liber­ation? I began to wonder just how much true respect girls and women get in our ‘free’ society.

In 2007 I went to Lebanon. I spent four days with female ­university students, all of whom wore the full hijab: belted shirts over dark trousers or jeans, with no hair on show. They were charming, independent and outspoken company. They were not at all the timid, soon-to-be-forced-into-marriage girls I would have imagined from what we often read in the West.

At one point they accompanied me to interview a sheikh who was also a commander with the Hezbollah militia. I was pleasantly surprised by his attitude to the girls. As Sheikh Nabil, in turban and brown flowing robes, talked intriguingly of a prisoner swap, they started butting in. They felt free to talk over him, to put a hand up for him to pause while they translated. (fawning over a terrorist? Check! – ed.)

In fact, the bossiness of Muslim women is something of a joke that rings true in so many homes in the community. You want to see men under the thumb? Look at many Muslim husbands more than other kinds. (Notice how she talks of men under the thumb, but ignores women under the fist – ed.)

Indeed, just yesterday, the Grand Mufti of Bosnia rang me and only half-jokingly introduced himself as ‘my wife’s husband’.

Something else was changing, too. The more time I spent in the Middle East, the more I asked to be taken into mosques. Just for touristy reasons, I told myself. In fact I found them fascinating.

Free of statues and with rugs instead of pews, I saw them rather like a big sitting room where ­children play, women feed their families pitta bread and milk and grandmothers sit and read the Koran in wheelchairs. They take their lives into their place of worship and bring their worship into their homes.

Then came the night in the Iran­ian city of Qom, beneath the golden dome of the shrine of Fatima Mesumah (the revered ‘Learned Lady’). Like the other women pilgrims, I said Allah’s name several times while holding on to the bars of Fatima’s tomb.

When I sat down, a pulse of sheer spiritual joy shot through me. Not the joy that lifts you off the ground, but the joy that gives you complete peace and contentment. I sat for a long time. Young women gathered around me talking of the ‘amazing thing happening to you’.

I knew then I was no longer a tourist in Islam but a traveller inside the Ummah, the community of Islam that links all believers.

At first I wanted the feeling to go, and for several reasons. Was I ready to convert? What on earth would friends and family think? Was I ready to moderate my behaviour in many ways?

And here’s the really strange thing. I needn’t have worried about any of these things, because somehow becoming a Muslim is really easy – although the prac­ticalities are a very different ­matter, of course (yes, ask those who have been forced to convert or die -ed.)

For a start, Islam demands a great deal of study, yet I am mother to two children and work full-time. You are expected to read the Koran from beginning to end, plus the thoughts and findings of imams and all manner of spiritually enlightened people. Most people would spend months, if not years of study before making their declaration.

People ask me how much of the Koran I’ve read, and my answer is that I’ve only covered 100 pages or so to date (wow, had only covered 60 pages last week. Progress! – ed.), and in translation. But before anyone sneers, the verses of the Koran should be read ten lines at a time, and they should be recited, considered and, if possible, committed to memory. It’s not like OK! magazine.

This is a serious text that I am going to know for life. It would help to learn Arabic and I would like to, but that will also take time.

I have a relationship with a ­couple of mosques in North London, and I am hoping to make a routine of going at least once a week. I would never say, by the way, whether I will take a Sunni or a Shia path. For me, there is one Islam and one Allah.

Adopting modest dress, however, is rather less troublesome than you might think. Wearing a headscarf means I’m ready to go out more quickly than before. I was blushing the first time I wore it loosely over my hair just a few weeks ago.

Luckily it was cold outside, so few people paid attention. Going out in the sunshine was more of a challenge, but this is a tolerant country and no one has looked askance so far.

A veil, by the way, is not for me, let alone something more substantial like a burka. I’m making no criticism of women who choose that level of modesty. But Islam has no expectation that I will adopt a more severe form of dress.

Predictably, some areas of the Press have had a field day with my conversion, unleashing a torrent of abuse that is not really aimed at me but a false idea of Islam.

But I have ignored the more negative comments. Some people don’t understand spirituality and any discussion of it makes them frightened. It raises awkward questions about the meaning of their own lives and they lash out.

One of my concerns is professional. It is easy to get pigeonholed, particularly if I continue to wear a headscarf. In fact, based on the experience of other female converts, I’m wondering if I will be treated as though I have lost my mind.

I’ve been political all my life, and that will continue. I’ve been involved in pro-Palestinian activism for a number of years, and don’t expect to stop. Yet Britain is a more tolerant country than, say, France or Germany.

I’m well aware that there are plenty of Muslim women who have great success on television and in the Press, and wear modest but decidedly Western dress.

This is hardly a choice for me, though. I am a newcomer, still getting to grips with the basic tenets. My relationship with Islam is different. I am in no position to say that some bits of my new-found faith suit me and that some bits I’ll ignore.

There is a more profound uncertainty about the future, too. I feel changes going on in me every day – that I’m becoming a different person. I wonder where that will end up. Who will I be?

I am fortunate in that my most important relationships remain strong. The reaction from my non-Muslim friends has been more curious than hostile. ‘Will it change you?’ they ask. ‘Can we still be your friend? Can we go out drinking?’

The answer to the first two of those questions is yes. The last is a big happy no.

As for my mother, I think she is happy if I’m happy. And if, coming from a background of my father’s alcoholism, I’m going to avoid the stuff, then what could be better?

Growing up in an alcoholic household with a dad who was violent, has left a great gap in my life. It is a wound that will never heal and his remarks about me are very hurtful.

We haven’t seen each other for years, so how can he know anything about me or have any valid views about my conversion? I just feel sorry for him. The rest of my family is very supportive.

My mum and I had a difficult relationship when I was growing up, but we have built bridges and she’s a great support to me and the girls.

When I told her I had converted, she did say: ‘Not to those nutters. I thought you said Buddhism!’ But she understand now and accepts it.

And, as it happens, giving up alcohol was a breeze. In fact I can’t imagine tasting alcohol ever again. I simply don’t want to.

This is not the time for me to be thinking about relationships with men, either. I’m recovering from the breakdown of my marriage and am now going through a divorce.

So I’m not looking and am under no pressure to look.

If, when the time came, I did consider remarrying, then, in accordance with my adopted faith, the husband would need to be Muslim.

I’m asked: ‘Will my daughters be Muslim?’ I don’t know, that is up to them. You can’t change someone’s heart. But they’re certainly not hostile and their reaction to my surprising conversion was perhaps the most telling of all.

I sat in the kitchen and called them in. ‘Girls, I have some news for you,’ I began. ‘I am now a Muslim.’ They went into a ­huddle, with the eldest, Alex, saying: ‘We have some questions, we’ll be right back.’

They made a list and returned. Alex cleared her throat. ‘Will you drink alcohol any more?’

Answer: No. The response – a rather worrying ‘Yay!’

‘Will you smoke cigarettes any more?’ Smoking isn’t haram (for­bidden) but it is harmful, so I answered: ‘No.’

Again, this was met with puritanical approval. Their final question, though, took me aback.  ‘Will you have your breasts out in public now you are a Muslim?’ (I think I just lost my breakfast – ed.)

What??

It seems they’d both been embarrassed by my plunging shirts and tops and had cringed on the school run at my pallid cleavage. Perhaps in hindsight I should have cringed as well.

‘Now that I’m Muslim,’ I said, ‘I will never have my breasts out in public again.’

‘We love Islam!’ they cheered and went off to play. And I love Islam too.

Of course, I am not a fan, but I will say that if it means we are not subjected to Booth’s cleavage, that is certainly one positive to come out of this quickie conversion.

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  1. Shy Guy says:

    Truer words were never uddered. xD

    • budhi says:

      It's Funny, she used to have her breasts out in public before embraced Islam…btw what is her religion before?I don't think she had one:)

  2. stv says:

    Are we treating the comments section as the communal puke bucket?

    Bleeeuuughhh…….sorry.

  3. Usydgirl says:

    The whole thing reads like a poorly thought out high school narrative for a society and culture class. She has always been a nut case; not that this choice is nutty; but for some reason I can't take instant just-add-water conversions to any belief system seriously. Especially when she's already… Um, unstable?

  4. Michael Zvi Krumbein says:

    Hey, she can be right about something. Even Hitler came up with the Autobahn.

    Your comments are on target, though.

  5. juvanya says:

    So much of what we know about this part of the world and the people who follow Mohammed the Prophet is based on ­disturbing – some would say biased – news bulletins.

    And that is because of you and your bullshit.

  6. Samson says:

    Lauren Booth: “Now That I’m Muslim, I Will Never Have My Breasts Out in Public Again.”

    Whew, what a relief!

  7. israellycool says:

    Unbelievable story

  8. tahir says:

    she made a great decision. “Islam is world’s most growing religion” so please give hands to convert others towards islam. thanks

    • Shy Guy says:

      "How great are Thy works, O LORD! Thy thoughts are very deep.
      A brutish man knoweth not, neither doth a fool understand this.
      When the wicked spring up as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish; it is that they may be destroyed for ever."

      – Psalms 92:6-8

      • Fas88 says:

        You do know that passage doesn't refer to Muslims….

        Musllims and Jews and Christians all have the same God. If you asked a Muslim if he was a Jew he will say yes, and if you asked him if he was a Cristian he will say yes. We should try and accept others especially the people of the book (Jews, Muslims, Christians) instead of fighting and arguing. What do you get from hating on Muslims anyway? Does it make you feel better? More superior? More "advanced"? There are things about Christianity and Judaism that people don't like as well…..but you don't see Muslim people attacking you. People say so much crap about Muslims…and I've never seen retaliation, not even in text. It's not that we're not capable….its that we're better than that. We know we need to accept Jews and Christians …..which we have, after all we have the same God and the same prophets and much of the same values.

        Thanks =)

        • Jim from Iowa says:

          Thanks for posting on this site. I appreciate your point of view and your defense of Islam and Muslims. But it should be as clear to you as it is to the rest of the world that a significant number of Muslims don't share your world view of acceptance and tolerance. These are the Muslims (the ones who want to kill me for being a) a nonbeliever; b) an American; c) gay; d) all of the above) that Muslims like you need to confront and reform. They are the obstacle to peace and understanding in the world today, not us.

          I hope you continue to have a dialogue with us on this site, Fas88.

          • Ahmed says:

            I hate to break it to you but a lot of american so called “devout christians” would infact love to kill you for being gay or to say the least curse you for being so or try to convert you to being straight once more and they are very open about their sentiments of gay people in general. infact i just drove by a demonstration against a gay mayor in Florida (my home state) not even a month ago. As for the american part.. no muslim wants to kill you because of your being an american (there are lots of muslim american citizens including I) so that part is a little over the top my friend.

            and for the non believer part.. Dont you know that shiva worshiping indians are considered non believers as are buddists, zoroastians, nature worshipers wiccans and so many other who have lived for centuries under islamic rule without even so little as a muslim moking them. infact they were protected by the army of the islamic empire against invaders or any one who wills to hurt them. the very simple fact that hindus, buddhists and zoroastrians still exist in islamic countries and under islamic sharia law refutes your claim.

            dont get me wrong i am not claiming that we are all saints.. on the very contrary we are just human just as you are we have good and evil but as long as we practice our faith and abide by it’s teachings we achieve a will to surpress our evil and embrace god’s commands or tolerance and humility towards are fellow human beings.

            • Shy Guy says:

              no muslim wants to kill you because of your being an american (there are lots of muslim american citizens including I) so that part is a little over the top my friend.

              Liar!

              Liar!

              Liar!

              Liar!

              There are hundreds more where these came from but your lies aren't worth the time responding to.

              The rest of your post is the same lying crap of what your religion of world totalitarianism portrays itself to be to the naive world. We know better now. Take your taqiyyah elsewhere.

            • Jim from Iowa says:

              Ahmed, you really are part of the problem, not part of the solution. Believe me, I know the mentality of some devout Christians toward gays, and it is quite hostile. But I'm sure they do not seek my death for being gay, unlike so many radical Muslims serving the interests of tyrannical governments in Muslim-majority countries. And what were the crimes of the 3,000 people living their lives in America that were snuffed out by 19 Muslim terrorists on 9-11? They were targeted by a Muslim terrorist group because they were Americans, not for anything they did as individuals. And you simply don't know history if you think the lives of non-Muslims living in Muslim countries for the last several centuries were part of some big happy family. Your observations, Ahmed, on a whole host of subjects really are over-the-top my fuzzy-headed friend.

            • budhi says:

              So….the victims of 11 November tragedy you considered as not Americans????pleassse…they're all dead just because they're all American…Muslims deep inside their heart really hates them

        • Shy Guy says:

          Fas88

          You do know that passage doesn't refer to Muslims….

          How lying and misleading of you. It was in response to Tahir who thinks that quantity makes right. So now read again.

          Musllims and Jews and Christians all have the same God.

          False. There's a reason why the Qur'an insists that jesus died as a human prophet on the cross and he was nothing more than that. Like Judaism and unlike christianity, Islam is purely monotheistic.

          Other than that, however, the teachings of each religion vary to every extreme in every direction.

          We should try and accept others especially the people of the book (Jews, Muslims, Christians)

          Hypocrite! The Qur'an – written by a barbarian murderer, thief and pedophile (Mohatmet – piss be upon him) – accuses both Judaism and christianity of corrupting their scriptures.

          I'll stop here, Joker. You get an F- in da'wa. Back to the madrassa you go!

          • P.Pajouhesh says:

            Shy Guy, dear friend
            do you think that talking in that way and got an F made you reasonable? if you want to say something, please, don’t shit on others, especially on the prophets, and just argue in a peaceful condition.
            beside, please when you say something about history and other religions under Islamic countries, show your documents.
            and after all, Islamic countries didn’t hate Americans, they just hate someones using militarism to own and control they lands and life and do what they order.

            • Shy Guy says:

              I was quote reasonable. Try reading all of the above posts and not selecting a line or two which you think you're capable of responding to.

              Your "prophet" was a thieving murderer. Them's the facts and I'll say it a million times over if it continues to bother you.

              History is an unknown subject to Islam, the Qur'an's fairy tales and to Muslims everywhere.

              As for Islamic countries hating America, you lie again. The video of Islamic Imams, sheikhs, princes and despots cursing not Just America but the entire "kafir", "infidel" world, are all over the internet for everyone to see, listen to and draw the obvious conclusions.

              You get a "G" in da'wa. Do not pass go. Do not collect you monthly camel piss allowance.

        • muslim girl says:

          i like Fas88′s comment.it’s very insightful.it’s a non-retort comment and it somehow shows ur intelligence and knowledge about Muslims’ God,Allah and our prophet Muhammad.It is true that Islam accepts the others despite the variation of the religions. Islam is going to be leading religion in the world. InsyaAllah.

  9. Asif says:

    I will say to all those having negative attitude towards islam must study Islam, and it is best way to start from quran and then study life of Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).Also don't mix the things each others.Cultures,Thoughts, Emotions and Islam are different although related with each other.
    I invite you to visit this very good website (http://www.quranenglish.com/) to study some sorts of Islam and then decide about the things.

    • Shy Guy says:

      Here is what the Qur’an has to say about us kuffars, unbelievers, infidels:

      Show us the straight path, The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray.”
      (Muslims generally interpret “those whom Allah has favored,” “those who earn Allah’s anger,” and “those who go astray” as Muslims, Jews, and Christians, respectively). 1:6-7
      Don’t bother to warn the disbelievers. Allah has blinded them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 2:6
      Allah has sickened their hearts. A painful doom is theirs because they lie. 2:10
      Allah has blinded the disbelievers. 2:17-18
      A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones. 2:24
      Disbelievers will be burned with fire. 2:39, 2:90
      Allah stamped wretchedness upon the Jews because they killed the prophets and disbelieved Allah’s revelations. 2:61
      Allah turned the Sabbath-breaking Jews into apes. 2:65-66
      If you believe in only part of the Scripture, you will suffer in this life and go to hell in the next. 2:85
      Allah has cursed them for their unbelief. 2:88
      The curse of Allah is on disbelievers. 2:89
      Jews are the greediest of all humankind. They’d like to live 1000 years. But they are going to hell. 2:96
      Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers. 2:98
      Only evil people are disbelievers. 2:99
      For disbelievers is a painful doom. 2:104
      Don’t question anything Muhammed says or choose disbelief over faith. 2:108
      “But those who keep their duty to Allah will be above them [non-muslims] on the Day of Resurrection.” 2:212
      For unbelievers: ignominy in this world, an awful doom in the next. 2:114
      “And thou wilt not be asked about the owners of hell-fire.” (They are the non-muslims.) 2:119
      Disbelievers are losers. 2:121
      Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire. 2:126
      “Who forsaketh the religion of Abraham save him who befooleth himself?”
      Cited in the Hamas Charter (Article 27) to condemn the idea of a secular state. 2:130
      Those who reject the proofs, are accursed of Allah. 2:159
      Those who die disbelievers, are cursed by Allah, angels, and men. 2:161
      The doom of the disbelievers will not be lightened. 2:162
      They will not emerge from the Fire. 2:167
      Disbelievers will be deaf, dumb, and blind. 2:171
      Those who hide the Scripture will have their bellies eaten with fire. Theirs will be a painful doom. 2:174
      How constant are they in their strife to reach the Fire! 2:175
      Believers must retaliate. Those who transgress will have a painful doom. 2:178
      Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kil them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don’t kill them.) 2:191-2
      Fight them until “religion is for Allah.” 2:193
      Those who fail in their duty to Allah are proud and sinful. They will all go to hell. 2:206
      War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not. 2:216
      Those who die in their disbelief will burn forever in the Fire. 2:217
      Intermarriage is forbidden. 2:221
      The disbelievers, they are the wrong-doers. 2:254
      Disbelievers worship false gods. They will burn forever in the Fire. 2:257

      And so, Asif, we kuffars say to you: UP YOURS!!!

      • Ahmed says:

        first off..

        asalamu alaikum .. shalom alekhem..

        Show us the straight path, The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray.”1:6-7 as you have stated refer to just that not muslims jews amd christians as you have also stated but rather those whom god has favored from all creation (those who follow his commands)those who earned his anger are those who disbelived in him and his commands (pharoah, those who worshiped the golden calf and others throughout history) and those who went astray meaning those who started on the path of god then got lost ( could refer to anybody who has done just that)as a jew u too believe that christians have gone astray (not all of them ofcourse)and i quote” I am the lord your god, a jealous god. thou shall worship none beside me.. thou shallnot associate anything from the heavens or the earth with me.” from The ten commandments. as a jew u know that kneeling infront of a dead man on a cross is heresy so please enough with the misguidance of your claims. in biblical text the jews were punished by 40 years of desert roaming and those who worshiped the golden calf also had their punishment so why is it so darn bad that in the quran God promises punishment to certain people or recounts punishments he had imposed on certain people. if you believe in god u believe in justice and by thus believe in reward and punishment so don’t claim otherwise. Muslim is arabic for one who submits and surrender (to the will of god that is) doesn’t it sound familiar to you have you never heard it in a synagogue or church before sureender to god’s will and submit to his glory. i personally have been to temples and churches and heard this exact invitation on numerous occaisons. we believe that any one who believes in god, his angels, his prophets and his books are muslims or people who have accepted god’s words as a fact in fact and have chosen to surrender to his will and submit to his glory (including all the jewish prophets and those who followed in their footsteps).

        • Shy Guy says:

          Your da'wa no longer works. Regarding the last 2 verses of the Fatiha (1;67):

          The traditional Islamic understanding of this is that the "straight path" is Islam — cf. Islamic apologist John Esposito's book Islam: The Straight Path. The path of those who have earned Allah's anger are the Jews, and those who have gone astray are the Christians.

          The classic Qur'anic commentator Ibn Kathir explains that "the two paths He described here are both misguided," and that those "two paths are the paths of the Christians and Jews, a fact that the believer should beware of so that he avoids them. The path of the believers is knowledge of the truth and abiding by it. In comparison, the Jews abandoned practicing the religion, while the Christians lost the true knowledge. This is why 'anger' descended upon the Jews, while being described as 'led astray' is more appropriate of the Christians."

          Ibn Kathir's understanding of this passage is not a lone "extremist" interpretation. In fact, most Muslim commentators believe that the Jews are those who have earned Allah's wrath and the Christians are those who have gone astray. This is the view of Tabari, Zamakhshari, the Tafsir al-Jalalayn, the Tanwir al-Miqbas min Tafsir Ibn Abbas, and Ibn Arabi, as well as Ibn Kathir. One contrasting, but not majority view, is that of Nisaburi, who says that "those who have incurred Allah's wrath are the people of negligence, and those who have gone astray are the people of immoderation."

          Wahhabis drew criticism a few years back for adding "such as the Jews" and "such as the Christians" into parenthetical glosses on this passage in Qur'ans printed in Saudi Arabia. Some Western commentators imagined that the Saudis originated this interpretation, and indeed the whole idea of Qur'anic hostility toward Jews and Christians. They found it inconceivable that Muslims all over the world would learn as a matter of course that the central prayer of their faith anathematizes Jews and Christians.

          But unfortunately, this interpretation is venerable and mainstream in Islamic theology. The printing of the interpretation in parenthetical glosses into a translation would be unlikely to affect Muslim attitudes, since the Arabic text is always and everywhere normative in any case, and since so many mainstream commentaries contain the idea that the Jews and Christians are being criticized here. Seventeen times a day, by the pious.

          Again, none of us can be bothered with dealing with every other bit of your lying smooth-talk.

      • P.Pajouhesh says:

        Surat 'Āli `Imrān (Family of Imran):

        Say, "O People of the Scripture, come to a word that is equitable between us and you – that we will not worship except Allah and not associate anything with Him and not take one another as lords instead of Allah ." But if they turn away, then say, "Bear witness that we are Muslims [submitting to Him]." (64)
        O People of the Scripture, why do you argue about Abraham while the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed until after him? Then will you not reason? (65)
        Here you are – those who have argued about that of which you have [some] knowledge, but why do you argue about that of which you have no knowledge? And Allah knows, while you know not. (66)
        Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah ]. And he was not of the polytheists. (67)
        Indeed, the most worthy of Abraham among the people are those who followed him [in submission to Allah ] and this prophet, and those who believe [in his message]. And Allah is the ally of the believers. (68)
        A faction of the people of the Scripture wish they could mislead you. But they do not mislead except themselves, and they perceive [it] not. (69)
        O People of the Scripture, why do you disbelieve in the verses of Allah while you witness [to their truth]? (70)
        O People of the Scripture, why do you confuse the truth with falsehood and conceal the truth while you know [it]? (71)

        and so on…

      • P.Pajouhesh says:

        In Quran, Surat 'Āli `Imrān ("Family of Imran") – from 65 to 71:

        Say, "O People of the Scripture, come to a word that is equitable between us and you – that we will not worship except Allah and not associate anything with Him and not take one another as lords instead of Allah ." But if they turn away, then say, "Bear witness that we are Muslims [submitting to Him]." (64)
        O People of the Scripture, why do you argue about Abraham while the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed until after him? Then will you not reason? (65)
        Here you are – those who have argued about that of which you have [some] knowledge, but why do you argue about that of which you have no knowledge? And Allah knows, while you know not. (66)
        Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah ]. And he was not of the polytheists. (67)
        Indeed, the most worthy of Abraham among the people are those who followed him [in submission to Allah ] and this prophet, and those who believe [in his message]. And Allah is the ally of the believers. (68)
        A faction of the people of the Scripture wish they could mislead you. But they do not mislead except themselves, and they perceive [it] not. (69)
        O People of the Scripture, why do you disbelieve in the verses of Allah while you witness [to their truth]? (70)
        O People of the Scripture, why do you confuse the truth with falsehood and conceal the truth while you know [it]? (71)

        and so on…

  10. Hannatu says:

    it’s unfair the way you butchered someone’s writeup of a personal experience, adding comments along the way. why don’t you let readers arrive at their own summations/conclusions?
    study the Holy Qurán and i bet you that you’d never be the same again…in a good way!

  11. junoon says:

    shy guy, you seem to be a very ignorant fool.
    no matter, the way you seem to enjoy interpreting the qur'an, of course you'll never be enlightened. and some people have such a fate.
    spend your time doing something better than spreading hate and falsities. no matter how hard you try, it will never break our iman, our religion, or hurt our qur'an.

  12. Jim from Iowa says:

    Ms. Booth has recently made a number of life-changing decisions. I know nothing of the woman, but by the looks of her she has apparently made one sacred vow that has nothing to do with Islam and much more to do with Scarlet O'Hara, heroine in the civil war novel "Gone With the Wind" when she said: "As God is my witness, I'll never go hungry again."

  13. Yihud Barak says:

    onesided all the way

  14. Jes says:

    Hi all – I'd like to say that every one of us is on a journey, and even if you feel this woman has made a mistake, harsh criticism is no response. It is not shocking news that the mainstream media consistently presents incorrect information when it relates to religious matters. It is good to question and anaylze the information we are offered. By responding with suspicion, fear, or hatred, you are just confirming her conviction that she has made the right choice, and you yourself are becoming like the image of Islam that you think you understand.

    I do not think Islam is the true religion, but it's a start in the pursuit of truth, and I am happy to see her making an attempt to reform some destructive behaviors.

  15. Gizelle says:

    The thing is that a lot of people are converting to Islam so i dont know why all the hate . Instead of bashing the religion on your "pro israeli" website why dont you read about the religion just like a lot of muslims read about judaism and other religions ? This website was made to gaher people who are against muslims and i think this is ridiculous it just shows how close minded this website is about other types of people. She is proud and convinced of the religion she chose so whats the problem ?Why do you add : VAPID TERROR SUPPORTER? I think you should try to look for the real terror supporters in the world and its sure isnt the muslims! Media propaganda again

    • budhi says:

      The real terrorist is people who make religion (Islam) for the motivation of killing (etc. Ossama bin Laden, 11/11 bomber, Bali Bomber, JW Marriot Bomber…all of them said Allah u Akbar then boommm..)…..its different with George Bush, Israel etc..they are not terrorist…its just politic & war…they never claim their religion as their motivation….
      I want to tell you that a lot of muslims in my country were so proud and happy when 11/11 happened..it was so hypocrite for me

  16. maria says:

    wow u are so racist.. this is the most bullshit write up ever.. I feel proud that this woman has converted to a beautiful religion..

  17. Shy Guy says:

    Dave, how many of these posts are coming from the same or similar URLs this time?

    • israellycool says:

      I did not look at my referrers list at the time, and I cannot trace it back that far.

      But I know this post was linked on Muslim forums so I am not surprised by the reactions.

  18. Michael says:

    Shy Guy, you're being hypocritical too.

    You should stop blaming the book and start blaming how its used.

    Because the Torah tells us that we should massacre an Amelekite on sight, regardless if woman, child, or undefensible. But you don't see us massacring any Amelekites, do you? That's just one of the many thing the Torah tells us to do that our Rabbi's interpret and do not tell us we are divinely commanded to kill the infidel and the nonbeliever. Blame the Imam's who say the Qur'an gives Muslims the divine right to maim, to subjugate, and to kill and blame the societies which indoctrinate the people to accept nothing else.

    • Shy Guy says:

      Shy Guy, you're being hypocritical too.

      Not at all, as you shall read.

      You should stop blaming the book and start blaming how its used.

      What a dumb statement. A religious text says adherents are obligated to do A, B and C, which they do, considering it the divine word – and then you avoid blaming the book????? How dimwitted is that!

      Because the Torah tells us that we should massacre an Amelekite on sight, regardless if woman, child, or undefensible. But you don't see us massacring any Amelekites, do you?

      Find me one. The commandment has become academic due to circumstances.

      You obviously have never opened up the Rambam's Yad Hachazakah.

      Time to get read for Shabbat in Jerusalem. Try engaging your brain next time.

      • Michael says:

        "What a dumb statement. A religious text says adherents are obligated to do A, B and C, which they do, considering it the divine word – and then you avoid blaming the book????? How dimwitted is that! "

        Do you do everything the Torah commands you to do? You're absurd. Do you believe Homosexuals should be exiled or murdered because they lie in sin? Do you believe that the adulteress or adulterer should be stoned?

        The Amelekites commandment is not academic at this point either. There certainly have been the fair share of traditions stating the Germans are their descendants as well as Armenians and other "enemy" peoples.

        • Shy Guy says:

          Do you do everything the Torah commands you to do?

          It certainly is my goal? What a dumb question.

          You're absurd.

          No. Just a loyal Torah observant Jew.

          Hey! If you don't believe in Hashem and his Torah, shove off to Tibet and hum trances and ring bells all day long. Good luck!

          Do you believe Homosexuals should be exiled or murdered because they lie in sin? Do you believe that the adulteress or adulterer should be stoned?

          Double yes.

          The Amelekites commandment is not academic at this point either. There certainly have been the fair share of traditions stating the Germans are their descendants as well as Armenians and other "enemy" peoples.

          Once again, find me a pedigree Amalekite – not a mixed breed mutt.

  19. sam singh says:

    Another Aussie..DAVE a settler in the historic land of Palestine that belongs to the true Palestians ie Jews and Christians (called the people of the book in the Quran) and Muslims.Not imported European zionist Jews and imported aussies….who by the way have also stolen the country of Austalia.Yes,mate from the true inhabitants of that country….the aborigines

  20. jjjjj says:

    not a SINGLE one of you has the courage to accept reality…what a shame!

  21. Abdussubhan says:

    So good!

  22. MissLady says:

    You're about to trust a website that is labeled as ''Jihad Watch''….can it not be more obvious that your sources are totally biased and untrue? Please find a REAL Qur'an, with REAL translations in it?

    • Shy Guy says:

      You can find a "REAL" Qur'an at Jihad Watch, just as you can reference one at USC.

      If I quoted something at JW that is "biased and untrue", put up or shut up.

      That's what I thought.

  23. Gordon Bowden says:

    Lauren Booth, a double front agent, closely affiliated to arrested Conservative Tara Andrea Biggs-Davison.
    Arrested on 13 Jan 2010 under a Proceeds of Crime Order by 13 Male Police Officers.
    Tara Andrea Biggs-Davison. 1989-1992
    Ex Arms to Iraq Investigator
    Ex Intelligence Advisor to the Select Committee of the DTI under MP Peter Lilley 90-92
    Ex Sister-in-Law to MP Peter Lilley

    The same MP Peter Lilley, who with MI6 Plant Stephan Kock of ASTRA Holdings and PM Margaret Thatcher, signed a Covert "Secret" UOR to purchase ex ARMSCOR 3 Pelindaba, Pretoria Battlefield Nuclear Bombs.
    The UOR
    Sanction by:
    Lord MacAlpine
    Peter Lilley
    Lord Levene
    Sir Mark Thatcher
    Mohamed Al Fayed
    Mohamed Adnan Khashoggi
    and a known network of Tory and Labour Peer's & VIP Grandee's

    The 1991 UOR for 3"CYLINDERS" brokered by Kleptomaniac Weapons Dealer John A Bredenkamp to enable a complex Conservative financial fraud, the deal to enable Bredenkamp to route through his Front Company to launder a Deliberate Conservative Treasury Overcharge for the 3 Nukes to be filtered into the EMPTY Conservative Coffers to fight the 1992 General Election.

    Uncovered by the Labour Party:
    HANSARD JUNE 22 1993 from Col 197

    The Problem for the Conservative Government and Lib Dem "Puppet Nick Clegg.

    Bredenkamp and his group of ex SAS Commanders, stole the 3 Nukes from their Storage (Gulf War1) in OMAN and moved them into IRAQ.

    Hence the report of WMD

    However, when Bredenkamp warned of impending coalition invasion to retake Kuwait, Bredenkamp moved the Nukes in Ambulances into Syria.

    Bredenkamp and his Conservative Grandee Financial Backers really started to PANIC, when Bredenkamp and group sold at least one Nuke on the Open Market to North Korea, who then detonated it in 2009.

    This Criminal Conservative Nuclear Weapon Operation in 1991 was ordered to be overseen by a selected Nuclear Expert, non other than Dr David Kelly.
    Now I wonder WHY these facts were never brought to the Public's attention.

    Lauren Booth, Tara Andrea Bigg-Davison, you naughty naughty slinky minkies

  24. alison says:

    i wish lauren booth well in her conversersen to islam i have been in islam 15 years and the only asvice i can give her is that she will find that their is a big lack of sisterhood in the muslim community,i can count on my 5 fingers how many sisters i have contact with ,at times its a very very lonely existance,and being a white revert you can also experiance racisim ,from muslims and non muslims and offensive remarks ive lost count of how many times ive been referred to as a arab muslim ,people assume that all followers of islam are arab when i am in fact a white muslim and look so this is once again down to their lack of knowledgeand as a divorcee she will find it hard to remarry ,i know because ive tried ,and a lot of muslim brothers just play games with the deen of allah,wish i could end on a more positive note ,unfortunelty i cant

  25. oriana says:

    Wow. Read a whole 100 pages of the Death Cult’s book…after joining it…IN DEPTH RESEARCH.

    I wonder if she is as IN DEPTH when researching other topics she writes about?

    Er…’shallow’, I meant to say!

    How long can it be before this life-long alcoholic is sloshing back her regular two bottles a day?

    I’m betting the Iranians offered her a whack of BAKSHEESH to switch to Moz.

    She’s about as shallow a person as one could ever meet.

  26. Harun Indo says:

    Good Muslim, make world save. I believe that.

    Alhamdulillah for you Laurent Booth.

  27. Anum says:

    such crappy piece of writing!
    totally one-sided with stupid comments along the way making the decision for the people instead of letting people come to their own conclusions… i dont know why you're so afraid of islam that you guys keep bashing it…
    how often do u see muslims criticising other religions??? reason is that our religion states that we are to respect other religions… too bad the rest of you shit heads arent taught the same respects…
    muslims dont really need to bash any other religion cuz unlike you we arent threatened by other religions… and dont feeel the need to criticize and insult people converting to other religions… that feeling comes when you know that your faith and beliefs are correct and not endangered by people like you and their comments!

  28. Sarah says:

    oh so the only thing you gathered from all this is that she wont have her breasts out in public and you're thankful for that… thats all that her change of faith is for you…
    i think that pretty much says enough about your juvenile mind and writing…

  29. owen says:

    You are not a submitter unless you worship God alone and discard hadith written 200 years after the death of Mohammed; etc. Study all the scriptures, torah, bible, and the quran – God's words only not man made. Hijab is not part of religion, it is culture suppressed by the Arab men and ignorant people. The Quran states only to cover your secret parts and lengthen your garment. However, I congratulate you Lauren Booth for passing the exams from elementary school of Torah to secondary school of Bible and God willing, the Quran, the ultimate source.

  30. Matty matt says:

    HATERssssss… acting like sore losers do after a game of ball. This isn't a game u haters. This is someone's life. You think your God? If you are, then rip open Booth's chest, take out her heart and prove to me she's a fake like you claim. If you can't do that, you're just a HATERrrrr… : ) be POSITIVE ppl!!! Come on… i love u even tho u hate me, but i don't like what ur doing. u sound like a …. haaaTer

  31. strange... says:

    most people who have a dysfunctional childhood go for therapy. but this woman converted to Islam. sounds like Stockholm Syndrome.

  32. soloman4israel says:

    you just dont know what to do first laugh, or laugh,writen by a hack trying to brain wash (already she's started)the reader into thinking that she is offering you a life of love stories and happy endings,the radicals version of love story._the coat the hat the warm kiss._the once historical occupied land of palestine,might have been an idea for her to have read some history books rather than the horse raceing results._the spiritually enlightened people,you know the ones they are the people with guns pointed at their heads by their so called spiritual leaders._oh'time for a large g&t,sorry i meant pray,some-how becoming a muslim is so easy._and of course the happy ending,the children who tell mummy we love islam before going off into the sun set to play._ good night john boy.

  33. sateve omar says:

    lauren "lobotomy" Booth………..deserves all she gets from islam…….doubtless she was on acid lsd or stoned on hash when she perverted to islam…..

  34. soloman4israel says:

    @fas88,greetings.
    your comment(we know we need to accept christians and jews and we have)
    expand and explain your comment please.

  35. sallysalt says:

    lauren booth is an idiot stupid person, who does not know the real GOD of the Bible, she now worships an a idea, a fake and a demonic religion of Islam, the devil has blinded her from seeing the fact that Islam is very hateful, man made garbage, she will meet the true GOD, in the judgement seat of CHRIST, the it will be too late, for her and others like herself, but our GOD is a merciful GOD who waits for the sinner to return back to him, so their will be saved.

    • Shy Guy says:

      You believe in a dead Jew on a stick pagan deity, based on thousand of manuscripts mashed up to produce 4 books over a century after the fairy tales told therein were supposed to have taken place and you think that Muslims are the one that "don't know the real GOD"?

  36. greatlakessocialist says:

    As for Lauren Booth.

    She's a conscious and capable adult. If she wants to convert to Islam I respect that just as much as if she wanted to convert to any other religion. I urge the other posters to cease slandering her and, what I believe, is just another variation of Monotheistic Abrahamic religion.

    • z303 says:

      Beause she is trying to get us killed.

      • greatlakessocialist says:

        That's some pretty serious allegations. How has this come to your attention?

        • z303 says:

          She supports our enemies. Read Dave's other entries on her.

          Remember, the endgame of the "conflict" is another holocaust. The Arabs have tried four times, so far, and the "two state" solution is just a precursor to that. They did manage to kill 10% of the Jewish population in 1948.

  37. greatlakessocialist says:

    Really constructive there, but I was caught up in the constant wall of text. I'm not sure you explained your viewpoint exactly. Could you elaborate?

  38. NCs says:

    "Instead of bashing the religion on your "pro israeli" website why dont you read about the religion just like a lot of muslims read about judaism and other religions ?"

    You're pretending you read "judaism and christian literacies ", I'm sure you didn't since muslims are prohibited from reading anything else than al Quran . Lauren Booth is just as the rest of English-newcomers, she's an anti semitic .

  39. CupmeBaulls says:

    oh and she has big boobs too, shame

    You want proof of the difference between Jew's and Muslims

    I have seen some very good Israeli porn but never have I seen Muslim porn

    such a backwards, supressed people

    • z303 says:

      First of all, I suggest you look at the history of Muslim art.

      Secondly, Judaism is about as against obscenity as you can get.

  40. hajith says:

    Assalamu alaikkum Booth. May Allah bless you and your family

  41. marianka says:

    stupid ignorant writer.

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