Silverstein’s Defence: More Lies

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In the wake of his latest egg-on-face episode, anti-Israel blogger Richard Silverstein tries to explain away the fact his “scoop” appeared on a forum site days before his post.

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2012/08/15/national-intelligence-leaks-and-the-hasbarafia/

UPDATE: My source has permitted me to publish the entire original Hebrew document, which you read here.  The English translation is in yesterday’s post:

When one publishes an important leaked Israeli government document as I have done, one has to expect a counter-attack from the hasbarafia.  And it has come.  I’m going to share a few words on the background of the document and address some of the scurrilous charges raised about this matter.  Then I’m not going to address it again nor publish any further comments on it.

About a week ago, I received the document from a known and trusted source who is, as I’ve often said here, a former Israeli government minister. It was in turn leaked to him by an IDF officer.

Unbeknowst to my source, the original IDF leaker also gave the document to a member of the Fresh forum, an Israeli gossip and politics forum. That Fresh member wrote a largely fictional account that included very limited portions of the actual document which I published in full.

Contrary to claims made by many in the hasbarafia at sites like Harry’s Place and CIF Watch, anyone who actually reads the Fresh post and compares it to what I translated & published would see that there is very little overlap. Of the entire 500 word (in English translation) document, perhaps 100 words are in the Fresh post, which itself is quite long, probably over 1,000 words (I haven’t checked).

Well, I have. Here is the document posted by Silverstein, with the words that also appear in the Fresh post in bold:

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And here’s the Fresh forum post in comparison, with the parts in bold constituting the exact words from the document Silverstein posted.

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Here’s another comparison prepared by another blogger. “Silverstein’s” document is on the right, with passages from the Fresh forum post on the left.

Click to enlarge

Now lets go back to Silverstein’s claims:

Unbeknowst to my source, the original IDF leaker also gave the document to a member of the Fresh forum, an Israeli gossip and politics forum. That Fresh member wrote a largely fictional account that included very limited portions of the actual document which I published in full.

Wrong. The Fresh post contains almost the entire document posted by Silverstein, with a few minor changes.

Contrary to claims made by many in the hasbarafia at sites like Harry’s Place and CIF Watch, anyone who actually reads the Fresh post and compares it to what I translated & published would see that there is very little overlap. Of the entire 500 word (in English translation) document, perhaps 100 words are in the Fresh post, which itself is quite long, probably over 1,000 words (I haven’t checked).

Wrong. Almost the entire Silverstein document is in the Fresh post. Approximately 300 words of the 1432-word Fresh post are from Silverstein’s Hebrew document.

In other words, he’s still misrepresenting the facts.

Meanwhile, a commentator on his site has this to say:

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2012/08/15/national-intelligence-leaks-and-the-hasbarafia/#comment-297392

Commentary101 August 16, 2012 at 2:47 AM
Mr. Silverstein,
Forgive me once again for disturbing you, and your site, and following this message, I promise not to bother you again(and therefore, please spare me the frantic shrills of “Hasbarafia”-which is even more childish than your above claims).
I’ve already submitted a complaint to the BBC, and they have announced that they are taking this matter very seriously.(Perhaps, to the point of completely purging your “expose” from their site).
Your lies, mendacity and verisimilitudes about Israel will be your undoing.
Do us all a favour, remove the “I am Pro-Israel” badge from your pages; some might actually be fooled into thinking so about you.

Commentary101 August 16, 2012 at 2:57 AM
“Ma’ariv” also tells us, today, that you’ve been contacted to excuse your lies; it’s also running this story.You’ve been exposed.(Sadly, once again).
Just apologize, and issue a retraction. Save whatever “face” you still have.
And like I said, I won’t ruffle you again.

Here’s hoping the commenter is correct, and the media will stop taking Silverstein seriously.

Update: Commentary101 writes in the comments to my previous Silverstein post:

There’s some limited success with this; and we’ve just started to see that, in the Hebrew media(via VelvetUnderground- an IMW award winning site):
http://velvetunderground.co.il/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/richmaariv.jpg
I’ve also submitted a complaint to the BBC.
Let’s hope that at least their pretence to Journalistic standards, will force them to retract their Silverstein “pastiche” forthwith.

Update: He’s still lying:

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2012/08/15/national-intelligence-leaks-and-the-hasbarafia/#comment-297439

I don’t deny at all that they’re based on the same source. The Fresh author was leaked the doc as I was & around the same time. But I used the entire doc & published it precisely as it came to me. I never saw the Fresh posting at all until well after the BBC story & my own post were published. Fresh created an entire fictionalized scenario & embellished the original. Plus he didn’t use all of the original document content in his posting.

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